Why didn’t god save Notre Dame?

They're lobbying because they're under attack.

So what? Does the Constitution say something on those issues or something?

How do you know it was in response to the election of a Muslim legislator? The Muslim in question made the ridiculous charge that the prayer was an attack on Muslims, or Islamophobic, or some such nonsense.

 

Something that does not exist can not save a burning Cathedral.

However, if one does believe in a god, perhaps it is because it would be his divine retribution on the Catholic church.

 

Shiva just likes doing this sort of thing! Brahma and Vishnu had left for the holidays!

 

Certainly true

I guess any time something bad happens we can speculate about some sort of divine retribution

 

There ain't no god so it can't save nothing.

 

I posted this in response to a claim the god has no impact upon governmental policy

But since you say that someone will s under attack, could you please provide pertinent details

I did not claim the constitution addresses these issues
I provided examples of how religionists seek to shape public policy. And in turn why i am interested, despite the fact tha5 i do not believe in god

I do not make any claim about the “prayer” in the context of muslims. I posted the video as supplementary evidence that religionists seek to interject their faith into governmental affairs.
I have no objection to such a prayer in church, or at home, or in private.. but claim that this prayer provides an example of why it is valid for me to discuss religion despite not believing in god.

 

Or looking at events in the reverse direction
Since there was no divine intervention to save Notre Dame..
It seems unlikely that there is any god who chose not to intervene

 

You are the one who claimed there is no instance where god is interjected in public policy. According to you, gods influence on public policy is Akin to the easter bunny.... and therefore i have no reason to comment or ask questions

 

Lol @ internet atheists.
According to you all, the Christian God doesn’t exist.

 

Certainly, but that's faith and superstition for you- all speculative.

Still, I'm not a militant atheist. As long as I and others am left alone, people may believe whatever they wish because I respect their right to have faith. Nonetheless, I have 3 pastors in my family (two uncles and a cousins). It makes family reunions interesting. They do like to push their beliefs, but that is the Christian doctrine I guess.

 

I did? I don't remember saying that.

You don't believe in God, so you can't believe that God influences anything.

 

Since you don't believe God exists, then you can't actually believe that something that doesn't exists impacts anything. It can't. It doesn't exist.

 

Speaking as a former atheist and current agnostic let me take a swing at this using logic. God did in fact save Notre Dame; no valuable art work was lost and nor the even more valuable relics. The main parts of the structure were untouched. There was ZERO loss of human life. Two French billionaires have between them eliminated any possible money issues for reconstruction and renovation. People around the world got reminded just how important Catholicism is to them. Looks like God answered all sorts of prayers.

 

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Isn't that a rather silly question considering the place is 856 years old?

 

A football player who "thanks god," for help with winning the super bowl doesn't literally believe that god likes his team better than the other team so he helped him score the extra touchdown. I don't think that's how it works. I believe it's a way of expressing that their faith is a personal source of strength. Nothing wrong with that.

I'm agnostic.

 

thanks for confirmation.

 

Woof. I don't think I could have cringed harder while watching this video. So painful and awkward.

Imagine the outcry and pitchforks if a non-Christian government representative gave a "prayer" of this magnitude.

 

I'm also a former atheist and current agnostic. Also a recovering Catholic.

 

Maybe God didn't save Notre Dame because he just sees it as a building and as something we value more than he does. Since we value it more, it is up to us to save not him. If God had cured all disease and saved all burning buildings we wouldn't have invented the technology to do this for ourselves.

 

Witches do not exist.... and yet people were burned
God may not exist, but as long as people believe... that belief will have a real impact

 

If you say so

 

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it is a clever point... but certainly believers do not think this way

Actually, you could say exactly the same thing about any issue that people pray to god about... he did not answer the prayer because xxx. He allows kids to get autism so we will do medical research, or learn to care for the handicapped.... etc

Is there some prayer that god would answer. Or do you agree with the comments of another poster who said that god does not get involved in everyday life!

 

Well, it was saved for over 850 years. That is a lot longer than your house will last.