Why didn’t god save Notre Dame?

How about the parent who thanks god that their child was cured of some disease

As to thanking god for winning the super bowl.... yeah, it sounds so stupid that your rationalization seems plausible. Otoh, the inquisition seemed pretty stupid too, and yet....
I think PT Barnum had a quote saying that no one ever went bankrupt overestimating the stupidity of the public. An observation that can be easily confirmed by spending a small amount of time watching televangelists who become fabulously rich from the money that stupid people send them in the name of god

 

Your logic is artfully peccable

 

Q: Why didn't/doesn't God [insert some desired outcome here]?

A: Because He doesn't exist.

 

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Mebbe God started it? I mean, the York Minster fire was started by a lightning bolt and who else throws lightening bolts around with careless abandon?

 

In reality prayer is a one-sided conversation with an imaginary friend. But I think prayer can still kind of make internal sense. Have you ever routinely done good things for someone without asking and he just starts taking it for granted? Maybe God just wants people to actually ask him for extra help rather than just taking what he does for granted. God will make life full of challenges to help us grow but often throw us lifelines when we need help. Kind of like a real training session.

 

So are you saying that God exists?

 

God exists the same way that witches exist

 

What,
Storefronts in Salem Mass.

 

Yes, and it also seems true that doing “good” things seems beneficial to people.... and that being thankful also has a beneficial impact on a persons experience of life. Since religions faith often encourages such attitudes, i think religious faith can be beneficial to people.... independent of whether god as we think of him actually exists

As I mentioned above, i think that religious practices can indeed have beneficial impacts upon human experience of life and upon social order. But so can meditation... regardless of whether that meditation is connected to religious practice or not.

My mom was a very religious person. I observed that her religious faith was very re-assuring for her. And in that way, improved her quality of life (at least in my estimation).

But over all it seems to me that while the are impacts associated with religious faith... these impacts are not tied to religious faith. Here is an example. The jewish religion has a very academic aspect where children do lots of study/analysis of text and language. The result is children who do (on average) better in all sorts of pursuits that require these talents. Otoh, Asian families emphasize similar efforts in their children... but for non-religious reasons. The results for asians and jews are similar regardless in dissimilarity of origination in religion

 

"Some churchgoers feared the fire was a sign from God in response to the consecration at the minster three days earlier of the Bishop of Durham, David Jenkins.

He had made the news for saying he did not believe in the physical resurrection of Christ."

 

How does an atheist even speak of 'good'? A dead universe doesn't care, it's simply might makes right, correct?

 

The Denver baker and Albuquerque photographer, the later was forced out of business for not denying her religious convictions.

Trump is doing quite a lot to protect religious liberty.

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2019/05/trump-and-religious-liberty

So what? The very same Founders who wrote the 2A the next day declared a National Day of Prayer.

Bunk, Christians have the same right to be involved in public policy issues as any other citizen. Dr. ML King certainly did.

 

Are you saying an atheist can't be "Good".

If you are "Good" only because you think someone is watching you, "you scare me".

 

Or He chose to allow that to happen for His reasons, just as He allowed the OT Temple to be destroyed twice.

 

No I'm not, but such terms don't logically follow from an atheistic worldview. Atheists speak about good quite a bit in the Judeo/Christian Western culture they spring from.

 

god can't do sh*t cuz it (very likely) doesn't exist.

But hey, keep the faith in those childish fantasies, believers


Just how the weak/frightened/gullible roll...

 

Not at all,

we are able to judge things we prefer all of the time. A ripe fruit is good, unripe is not good. A car that runs is better than one that doesn't, Cancer free is good, stage 4 cancer is not good. Being blind is not good, 20 20 vision is good. Mit romney is good, ted bundy is not good

Goodness is not determined by the universe, or god..., it is determined by human values

 

Right, the vast majority, now and always who are theists are nuts, but the village atheists are sane.....

 

To some degree, God has planted his word on human hearts. Ted Bundy was an illustration of might makes right. Take God out of the picture and all you have is personal preference.

 

Because Notre Dame is not God's, its Man's. Whether folks sing The Lords praise and discuss His designs in a field or in a Cathedral matters not to God. We built it with oak structure and sawdust insulation. Not God.

 

You're being evasive. Do you claim that God exists or not?

 

Maybe he is getting tired of priest diddling kids.

 

God exists the same way witches exist

 

Apparently lots of things matter not to god... like kids with autism

 

Yes... exactly