Why do liberals want no limit open borders?

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  1. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There we have it.
     
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    Wait. What? Your lack of understanding of a definition of a word means I hate white people?

    And, while we are at it, are you European or indigenous to North America? It can't be both.
     
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    I don't know what a "worldist" is, but hopefully it isn't as fake and divorced from reality as "white genocide." Does it mean people who recognize the reality of the world instead of living Ina victim fantasy? Then yes.
     
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    Post fail, the Republican party abolished it.
     
  5. Carl Von Clausewitz

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    You lack an understanding of history like most people. I'm a European American where the United States was created by ethnic Europeans along with its government. Also, natives or indigenous in terms of words are meant to codify those who are the majority.

    The Eskimo and Inuit didn't become natives or indigenous to Alaska until in history they became the majority residing there.
     
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    One worldist another way of saying globalist are people who believe the entire world should be mixed up into one singular race worldwide where supposedly it will achieve global social utopia, that's you.

    Speaking of delusions....
     
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    Lol, then no. I'm not a "worldist." Utopias are as much an unrealistic fantasy as "white genocide" is.
     
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    Yeah, I think we're done here. It's obvious you believe in nothing.
     
  10. Curious Always

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    I understand history just fine. It's not, in any way whatsoever, related to the definition of the word indigenous.

    Can you show me some examples of "Americans who are descendants of European immigrants," being referred to as "Indigenous people of the United States' to prove you are using the commonly accepted definition of the word?
     
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    If you seriously think the only options for belief are tinfoil paranoia or hippy daydream, then yes. If you try actually talking to people about their beliefs, you'll discover you are wrong. There's even, *gasp*, a philosophy called individualism that rejects both the globalist collectivism you fear and the tribalist collectivism you preach.
     
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    Dig around in the garden and you're sure to find a few nuts.
     
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    Radical individualism is one of the worst pervasive delusional fantasies.
     
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    You're just one of those people that don't want to believe Europeans are indigenous or native anywhere. You'll come up with any sort of excuse for that ideologically.

    One more question, are Israelis native or indigenous to Israel? Yes, or no?
     
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    Uh, what? You seem to want to paint my political beliefs based on my using the most commonly used definitions of words. That's a screwy system you use to label people.

    The indigenous Europeans look a lot like Europeans today, and a lot like me with my pasty white skin. They migrated from Africa having no idea what was out there, and settled in Europe, where, over lengthy periods of time lost their skin tone. Scientists can explain the whys of that better than I.

    As to Israel? I believe they are the natives, but only based on my trusting in scholars who study these things. I have no opinion on the conflict. It's none of my business and I find the whole thing pretty silly.

    Why do you think I don't believe Europeans are the indigenous people of Europe? Because I refuse to use your made up definition of the word indigenous?
     
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    The GOP is split on illegal immigration.

    The Democratic Party is unified. They walk in lock step for it.
     
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    WHat the hell does open borders mean?

    A wall across the Southern border?

    What about the Canadian border?


    Wouldn't that be an "open border" without a wall on IT?
     
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    Then don't go radical. Meanwhile, individualism is the most rational approach to sexual ethics. The hippy "worldist" approach would try to tell people who to sleep with in order to eliminate race. The paranoid tribalist approach would try to tell people who *not* to sleep with in order to avoid a fake genocide. Individualists, meanwhile, are just kind of creeped out that any political group is that interested in someone else's baby making and just lets people do their own thing.
     
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    Radical individualists are also the easiest to divide and conquer.

    Your anti collectivist tendencies making it easier for people to rule over you as you have no loyalty to anybody or anyone beyond yourselves.
     
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    Why such an uninformed opinion? Where'd you get such information from?
     
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    You are mistaking individualism for ethical egoism. Individualism is about individual rights, including respecting the individual rights of others; so yes, there is plenty to contemplate beyond the self. I have plenty of loyalty to others. I just don't like using groupthink to sew paranoia in order to quash individual liberty (including the individual liberties of others, not just my own).

    But notice the appeal with tribalist collectivism is primarily fear. White genocide! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! . . . and that's why you need more government control. Because who else will protect you from the boogeyman we've invented?
     
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    Obviously for the intentional untruth.
     
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    Just a note "Above average people" do not clean streets, houses or pick fruit.
     

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