Why Do "Progressives" hate us?

Give me a break you don't call people Nazis and racists if you like or respect them. You may never say the word hate but it drips from every paragrapgh an every sentence.
The word hatred only appears in trump supporter posts because that's the only accurate word to use when describing the left's hourly assaults up this current president.

Dude IN New York there are more African-American babies aborted than born. It may not have the cachet of gas chamber but over time it serves the same purpose. As did inviting the Nortes and Suds, and MS13 into African American neighborhoods.

 

Ddue It goes back to at least the sixties and maybe FD Flippng R.

 

Here is the fault in your thinking.

What you are describing isn't an attribute of conservatives or liberals. It's the fault of people with biases using their power to turn those thoughts into actions.

You say conservatives want to just be left alone and don't do this stuff to people? Forcing people to sit through prayers is exactly what you are describing above. Some conservatives have no problem with public schools forcing or leading prayers. So don't pretend like your "side" is innocent.

The "problem" you are describing is exacerbated by people who aren't honest with themselves. Your post is lacking accountability for your side, portraying your side as the victims. There are few Americans who are genuine victims these days, we've worked very hard to get to this point. And we have further to go, but the victim problem tends to be those who are considered 'abnormal.' Conservatives tend to see themselves as normal, every day Americans. Right? So that implies conservatives see other Americans as not normal...and have at times victimized them.

Do progressives do this to conservatives? Yes, but not nearly as often as you make out.

 

Im inclined to agree. We live in the information age where more people won't ignore the lefts actions over the last century.

And its hard to ignore the reminders from countries like Sweden and Venezuela.

And yes, they really do eat their own.

California is like that.

 

Rhetorical question, I know. But the middle class is as close to bourgeoisie as you can find here, and we stand in the way of their dream world.

 

Please provide a citation to substantiate your claim.

 

To the contrary, conservatives want everyone to be the best they can be, and progressives want everyone to to be beholden and obedient.

 

Some conservatives want that. Others, IME, are as equally authoritarian as their progressive neighbors.

 

Oh come on now! There’s plenty of hate on both sides.

 

Can you back that ridiculous question up with some form of proof?

 

No wonder there's so much rancour and unpleasant behaviour amongst the trumpkins if it's been festering that long.

 

Yep when you've been calling people names like Trumpkin or bumpkin or much much worse for seventy years you have no reason to bitch when it starts coming back to you.

 

Trump kin - those related to Trump.

Fam.

Fully identified.

Until he ditches 'em.

 

Excuses, excuses,

 

I can tell you're a trumpkin rather than a bumpkin because you default to the presumption that I'm making excuses. Bumpkins don't do that, they accept what's in front of their noses until evidence shows otherwise.

 

Currently BOTH sides 'hate' each other. Anyone who denies that is lying.

Conservatives hate all ideas progressive, just as progressives hate all ideas conservative. This is the current political climate we find ourselves in.

 

It is possible that you are confusing conservatives with some Republicans.

 

The domestic "us versus them" is the mantra of the "progressives". Who said this in 2008:
"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

And he reiterated it in 2015. That was obama, who finally openly stated the policy of the "progresives" - demonize and dehumanize all who oppose the prog quest for power.

Who wages war on conservatives and Christians, threatening them and their families, try to ruin their businesses, threaten their customers and suppliers, work to get them fired, try to bankrupt families and have them evicted from their home? Progs.

Absolutely. Its a zero sum game, there is no common ground between Americans and "progressives" .

When a prog says "lets compromise", he means conservatives surrender and the prog wins. Only a fool "compromises" under those conditions.

 

Of course conservatives hate progs. And why shouldnt people hate those who constantly denigrate them and try to impose their will on everyone? Just like slaves hate the slave master, and Jews hate Nazis.

Progs can end this simply by going home and leaving everyone alone. Live your own life, and let others live theirs, all under a framework of decentralized and minimal federal govt. That's the American way - but of course that's the problem, the prog way is the opposite of the American way.

 

No, I don't think so. It's not evil to hate evil. It's evil to tolerate or embrace evil. What is evil is to think that conservatives are evil just because they have different policy prescriptions from you. Republicans aren't evil because they don't want socialized medicine... Democrats think that if you oppose free healthcare for everyone, it's because you're a heartless evil villain who wants sick children to die, but the real reason is that we believe that a free market in health care leads to better outcomes and fewer sick children dying. Democrats just don't get that.

 

Thread loser.

Full stop

 

Well bummer for ya, becaues I know so.

An atheist may never understand why this is nonsense.

To hate evil is to embrace it.

 

I have news for you, I was a Christian for 29 years. I still think it's not evil to hate evil. It's not evil to hate, if what you hate is the bad, the wicked, the sinful, the disgusting, the diseased, the foul. It's not evil to hate Hitler. It's not evil to hate Stalin. The Old Testament God was perfectly capable of a good dose of hatred.

Proverbs 6:16-19

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

Psalm 11:5

The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.

Proverbs 8:13

The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.

Psalm 5:4-5

For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers.

Hosea 9:15

Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels.

Leviticus 20:23

And you shall not walk in the customs of the nation that I am driving out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I detested them.

Zechariah 8:17

Do not devise evil in your hearts against one another, and love no false oath, for all these things I hate, declares the Lord.

He even commands you to hate.

Psalm 97:10

O you who love the Lord, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Romans 12:9

Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good.

Here's Jesus on the subject:

Luke 14:26

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

So what were you saying?

 

While I don't doubt you believe that, the fact is you weren't a Christian for 29 seconds.

You don't know what you're talking about.

For the overwhelming majority of people, hatred is an emotional uprush that makes the hater feel superior to the hated; whereas ideally, it would make the hater aware that he's falling for the same Creator* damned lie the hated fell for, which set him on the road to being worthy of hatred.

* edited for the retarded word filter

So the way you figure it, Christ wouldn't have sinned by hating the adulterous woman He saved from stoning. Got that about right, haven't I?

On the contrary, cases like that are where evil and stupid are revealed as one and the same.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you've never once been on the giving end of such hatred as those scriptures refer to.

I was saying you don't know what the hell you're talking about - and veridically so.

 

Yea...it has...and it doesn't get better with age