Unfortunately, the VAST majority seek to turn potentially diverse communities into nasty partisan echo chambers. Relentless, mindless trolling abounds in service of this end. The resulting desertification may cause one *side* or the other to proclaim *victory* but the reality is that everyone loses. It's shame, but humanity.
This brings up an interesting point indeed... If talking politics damages relationships, what is the actual value of these relationships? If a friend is someone you trust, then why can't civil conversations about politics occur? I know they can't - that 95% or so of us can't have sane conversations - but it brings the value & depth of friendships into question, doesn't it?
No ad hominem, no fallacy. You've made yourself part of the topic by presenting your alleged reasons for posting here in your OP; I asked about these in service of a larger & more general point. Nothing particularly personal. You've ironically dodged the question with a fallacious appeal to non-existent fallacy, thus strengthening - if not proving - my point. People - the vast majority - seek echo chambers and desertification, not views which challenge them. And some take things so far as to delude themselves into believing that this isn't what they're doing. Further desertification.
I like laughing at liberal lunacy. This place is 99% entertainment for me, 1% serious discussion, but that has been lacking for years due to hyper partisanship…
Some excellent points. The redundancy - and ignorant hostility often contained therein - can be overwhelming. I don't have anyone on ignore either, as I feel this is less useful than simply scanning/scrolling past the bobbleheads, but I've occasionally used it as a temporary form of relief if someone was really going to town with irrational outrage. With rare exceptions, I think people use ignore as a way of retreating from views which challenge them; it's often a form of intellectual cowardice in which folks create the echo chamber desert I mention above; a self-defeating exercise in confirmation bias which negates the entire purpose of being here.
Do you think women are even more prone to this tendency than men? While trashing a gift - - is something that would tend to land most fellas in the doghouse, mere disagreement with women may cause them to shut down MUCH faster than men, & often become overtly hostile.
It's stunning to think of the juxtaposition of Obama, one of the most fact based decision makers we've had in the Oval Office, and Don.........who is too lazy and intellectually incurious to read so he gets misinformation from Alex Jones, the National Enquirer, and Faux.
Interesting, and some good points. I find myself disagreeing with liberals (closet conservatives) about 50% of the time, and (declared) conservatives the other 50%. (You can imagine how popular I am!) Have you observed lopsidedness in most forums? I find that they tend to be dominated MUCH more frequently by conservatives, but is this your experience?
Undoubtedly, but don't liberals do the same thing? I will say, however, that conservatives appear more relentless/dogged/redundant in insisting on their alternate realities; liberals are more inclined to throw their hands up after a few back & forths rather than endlessly hammering away.
I think we're tribal & wired for black/white, friend/enemy. Ideational "disloyalty" is not only a perceived core threat to the fantasy of larger group cohesion, but labeling someone as "other" also allows uncomfortable dissonance to be instantaneously dissipated. A context like this forum SHOULD allow people to move away from this, but too few can remain rational & discuss ideas as better or worse based not on partisanship, but ideal frameworks based in logic and compassion. In fact, the partisanship often becomes WORSE, and the logic and compassion LESSER. Anonymity & all that.
Well... Russiagate? And it's not just liberals; the left has all kinds of nutty ideas as well, sometimes sharing the kooky with the right. (Bizarre false flag claims abounding in both camps.)
the topic of this thread is “why do you post here,” not the content of my alleged ignore list, which obviously you are not on if it even exists. so, no further ado, please tell us why you post here.
The black/white, friend/enemy, is binary thinking. It seems those who lean right are closer to binary thinking and those who lean left are more towards a continuous scale of thinking. IE, there is more than two options or sides to issues.
Yeah. Of course, that works both ways. Although, it is ill-advised for you to use a term like "liberal lunacy" (since it puts you right on the edge of an infraction-worthy "group insult"). Anyway, I (personally) would avoid any sort of borderline group insult like "liberal lunacy". I prefer the word "entertainment". There is nothing (repeat NOTHING) more entertaining than watching the RW Echo Chamber using the same warmed-over Fever Swamp talking points ("TDS", "But Obama...But...Clinton", Etc.) in multiple threads (all day/every day) because they have no serious "rebuttal". That sort of Uproarious Entertainment (Thanks to the RW) makes my time here enjoyable. Have a nice day.
Good point on the list. And good thread. I post here for a number of reasons, but curiosity is the main spur. Can people positively impact the collective din, or are we destined just to beat the crap out of each other?