Why I Might Vote For Republicans And Trump After All.

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  1. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    Actually no, I'm one of the biggest critics of Trump which is why when I vote for him in 2020 I'll get no pleasure from it other than I'll still be able to post on the internet freely.

    Yes, you don't have to lecture me on ancient history of which I'm already acquainted with.
     
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    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    Even so I'll take what I can get at this point.
     
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    Fact is that national socialism abhors free speech and democracy.
     
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    Which is no small boon.

    Fact is that socialism isn't exactly friendly to free speech and democracy.
    It just seems to be an inherent tendency, for some reason.
     
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    Yes, but I'm talking about voting in the moment with things that immediately effect me.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I actually don't think it's impossible. It would be at least 40 or 50 years time from now.
    When the majority of people are culturally, ethnically, identify with, and give their allegiance to another country, typically those areas have a way of wanting and pushing for separatism.

    I'm not saying it is going to happen. I'm just saying I wouldn't discount it from the realm of possibility.
     
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    I describe national socialism as social capitalism but that is a discussion for another time.
     
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    But are you voting for those candidates because they're standing on a Republican ticket or because of their individual positions (assuming they have any of course).

    You don't know Trump will be a candidate in 2020 (I know he's already declared but that could change) and you certainly don't know who would be standing against him, both at Republican Primaries and, pending that, the election itself. It seems a very early to be declaring for anyone.

    Quite possibly, but that doesn't make anything they do either the policy or the responsibility of the Democrat party. You've also not established that anyone of them are actually doing what you implied (though I don't expect that aspect to go anywhere).

    Hey now! "They've" (at worst). I'm a truly independent onlooker here. :cool:

    The USA isn't becoming Mexican in terms of population. There is a growing Hispanic population but that isn't the same thing. Mexico "absorbing" the US would be stopped by the US Constitution, international law, the US military, NATO and/or the American people, varying on the baisi of whatever wild fantasy you have about this actually happening.
     
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    I'm familiarizing myself with the positions of those I'm voting for locally yes and I'm voting with my own conscious. Kinda a big deal for me considering I haven't voted at all in seventeen years, normally I don't participate because I view the whole system as illegitimate anyways but the stakes are too high concerning idleness this time around.

    I don't foresee Donald Trump being impeached but of course it is a distinct possibility given the position of the democrats with their Russian hysteria and political inquisition.

    I doubt there will be any other viable contenders in 2020 beyond Trump but we'll see, won't we?

    You're an independent? Fair enough.

    It's kinda hard to separate censorship enthusiasts from democrats considering they're all cheering it on.

    You assume if the Mexican population eventually becomes dominant in the United States that the government along with all its historical institutions would remain the same unchanged, this is a very big somewhat fallacious assumption of all cosmopolitan civic nationalists.
     
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    That is good. I was voting at least 90% for Republican candidates in local elections way before I officially switched parties.
     
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    NEO Cons are not all bad people. Poppy Bush is a decent man and compared to The Lying King Bush the W is fine. I agreed with him on Afghanistan, but not about Iraq. Other than that what's wrong with him?
     
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    Your fears of the U.S. being absorbed into Mexico are groundless. Mexico has already fought two wars with Americans--the Texan Revolution & the Mexican-American War. Both turned out badly for Mexico. I see not desire on their part to do it again. I think you can rest easy on that score.
     
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    No, they really are all bad including Poppy Bush.
     
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    I don't share your enthusiasm.
     
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    We all have a right to our opinions. Hey Poppy Bush was a bit chimmybwith the ChiComs but look at the Lying Kink he is "In Lave" with Kim Ho Dong and other murdering savages such as Putin and the like.
    Too bad Edi Amine is dead because the Trumpocity would be in love with that Anus also.
     
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    Maybe you should do a bit of research about which party wants money to determine internet access speed.
     
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    Exactly. Repealing net neutrality is the biggest threat to freedom of speech in my lifetime with the possible exceptions of McCarthyism and the Citizens United decision.
     
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    Figured as much. After all neocons are just rebranded scoop Jackson democrats, the Bush are all that's left of the old Rockefeller Republicans. There not bad folks unless you object to spending 1/2 to2/3 of GDP on government year in and year out
     
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    I love this thread. Here we see an actual, self-described National Socialist (or Nazi), and what he thinks of us Trump supporters.

    What words did he use? He "does not adhere to our beliefs", we're not "ideal allies or himself much of theirs", we're "cosmopolitan civic nationalists" and it's a terrible thing.

    He only started supporting Trump recently because Trump is against Internet censorship. But he still thoroughly dislikes both parties.

    And yet, watch the usual fake news crowd try to Nazify Trump and his supporters on this thread.

    This is beautiful.
     
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    Isn't that a bipartisan effort anyways?
     
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    BS government control of the internet is the biggest threat to free speech ever.
     
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    Ok, I understand that, and since MCCain died Lindsey Graham has become a smoocher of the point of ejection terminus of the lower intestinal track of a certain well known yellow haited subject of SNL skits.
     
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    McCain The Turd Stain sure loved his ISIS buddies in Syria though.
     
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    We'll see.
     
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    Sorry for you. Life is filled with stresses. No need to invent new ones to pile onto those already there.
     

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