Why I'm Catholic

What a luck - when I was born I asked this warm thing outside something like "¿rgld krgpfrst??". And what can I say? My mother understood me immediatelly. Life is full of wonders.

http://youtu.be/HJlIOMaqj0E

 

I figured...No. My parents were what one would call Evangelicals today--part of a non-denominational Christian community in which I was raised until I refused to go any more at about 13.

 

I like Orthodox churches. Though I have never been to their liturgy, I would love to though. I also love their Icons and the idea of an Iconcorner.

If I am to have children someday, I would have them grow up with the faith. Going to church and catholic school. It would offer something I didn't have when I was growing up. A Solid ground when it comes to religion. When they get older, I would allow them to explore. Which ever religion they pick, I hope holds the same morals as the Church does.

 

Thank you for the advice

 

Catholic Art is wonderful.









The last one is actually more of an Eastern style

 

It is a nice glittering façade, but not everything which glitters is gold, as one can see from the posts of Catholics here, - dig a little bit deeper and you'll see the nasty content fountaining.

 

Originally Posted by _Inquisitor_ Catholics have the same mentality and perception of reality as atheists.

Everyone except atheists sees that I have been friendly and respectful to the RCC until you came to demonstrate the ugliness of Catholicism hidden behind its glittering façade.
You don’t really have to keep on coming back to the same proof that Catholics are not different from atheists.

Originally Posted by _Inquisitor_ Felicity and Co came with posts which in their essence and goals are no different from typical OPs of atheists here.

What is unclear to any independent observer?

Oh, I forgot that Catholics do not understand basic reality without icons painted on it. Can they forgive me for having a different perception of reality? Do you really have to be so vicious in your contempt towards anybody who does not need icons?

You don’t have to repeat you perception of this world. I on my side will not repeat the lecture, meant to help you with your feeling of pain this world is inflicting on you.

Not too much I can make out rather than you are calling atheists for help again.

I understand that you like pain and you like to hate, but it is not a Protestant thing you are asking me to do.

And you got the middle finger as a moderate and mild reply and now you keep on whining and crying. Did you really expect a candy and a smile?

I do not recall a funny German book or a movie but you really shouldn’t carry such thoughts about yourself. It may not be funny for anybody who’s not a German.

I never claimed that you had a problem with homosexuals. I see homosexuals having a problem with the CC. First they complained that the CC was covering homosexuals infiltrating it, now they complain that the CC treats those homosexuals too harsh. But I did not know about the position of Catholics. Thanks for letting me know. I have no comments because I think it is Catholic’s business not mine. Only when Catholics cannot mind their own business and have the demonstrated here urge to poke their middle finger into mine, I see no difference between homosexuals and Catholics or atheists, - they all may have the middle finger broken as the result of not minding their own business. Here I bet homosexuals will understand this simple idea sooner than Catholics as it will be demonstrated by coming Catholic posts on this tread.

 

I'm toying with the idea of putting you on ignore with all the other atheists. You're like a squaking bird spouting a one note cacophony.

Icons are spiritual as well as physical. They are windows in heaven. You'll never understand icons because you think physical reality is all there is.

All you have is snide remarks. No counter arguments, just attacks.

I take this to mean you're a homosexual. No wonder you hate us.

The rage.

The fury.

The boredom.

You're on ignore. You have nothing to offer this or any other discussion.

 

First Catholics stated that they did not have a problem with homosexuals. Last paragraph here: http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/203544-why-im-catholic-10.html
Now they state they do. One cannot have a straight talk with Catholics.

Please ladies and gents pay attention to mental acrobatics of Catholics.
They first made me an Anti-Christ, then insane, then a devil worshiper, now in a few mental tricks they have made me a homosexual. And they all feel relieved. I am not relieved. I am waiting for another mental acrobatics which will make me a lesbian.

And please, ladies and gents, let me bring to your attention that if I am a homosexual I automatically hate.

And it is not only that. I am a special homosexual who specifically hates the RCC but is OK with Protestants and Russian Orthodox.

As I have said many times ladies and gents, just to explain why I had to cut through the BS, Catholics have not come to share joy, happiness and love of Xty, JC is their last care and they are void of love. They have come to prove that they are only true Christians, which is as you ladies and gents understand is a retarded agenda. There is no sense in supporting the retardation and debating Catholics going through the Bible and history (especially when history teaches that Avicenna was a Muslim). Does not it gives you a feeling that if you all alone fail a verse from wikipedia answering their collective efford, you are done for life? Catholics are ready to do any kind of mental acrobatics, they do not mind to unite with atheists, they ignore and twist any real objections and hunt for those who may not see their mental acrobatics and who look to them less versed in wikipedia. But it is written, - What good is to you if you over smart everyone but loose your own soul. It shouldn’t be difficult for you, ladies and gents, to see what we all have and what Catholics and atheists don’t have and thus have nothing to loose.

As always, ladies and gents, I truly appreciate a minute of your attention. I hope you understand that I really do when I get straight to the point cutting through the BS.

Inquisitor… and lesbian.

 

This kind of absurd generalization identifies you as a bigot - you know that right?

 

That's only because a unipolar marriage is not possible. Let it say with my words. A marriage is a kinf of yin-yan thing and not only a thing. But the most catholics - specially our bishops - love it ver much if homosexual people like to live in reliable partnerships. On the other hand: homosexual behavior is still a sin; so for example: anal-sex done from heterosexuals is a sin. Anal-sex is by the way indeed very dangerous, what you can see if you study the propagation conditions of aids.

¿they?

What a nonsense. The catholic church was much more tolerant than anyone else in this world in case of homosexuals. Unfortunatelly specially the situation in the United States forced the catholic church to change something.

You was the only perverted (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who did so.

Fine - I also not.

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Sometimes I have the feeeling you could have a little problem with the catholic church - but I don't have an idea where this feeling could come from. May it be never a catholic did you something bad in your whole life so you have to hate catholics? Or was her name Cathleen and your cheek is still burning?

http://youtu.be/qAcGaqwL3Q4

 

Anobsitar--your sense of humor makes me chuckle.

 

I don't personally think you need a religion to provide your children a good grounding. You know what is right and what is wrong, regardless of whether you have religion or not, and as a parent you will bring your children up with those values.

over the years one thing that I have seen is that children, whether they reject their parents religious values or not, eventually will adopt very similar personal values to those of their parents .... may not always look like it, but if you bring your children up to be honest, respectful and considerate of others ... they will be that anyway (after they have got through that period of adolescent selfihness!) . if you don't - no matter what religion they follow, they won't have these values.

WRT bringing them up in a religion ... I think there can be a number of problems ... one, they may choose to completely reject that religion - often without a rational basis, or they may continue within it, again ... without it really being a conscious choice.

but I guess you will take your chances regardless of what I say!

 

hmmm .. when 9 and 10 year olds are being told to select a patron saint ... they aren't going to be really looking at it like that ...

and also, while I understand what you mean WRT "pious devotion" and "spiritual ancestors" I would be really really interested to see catholics truly follow in the footsteps of their patron saints!

 

Does it matter? They will grow in faith and understanding...hopefully.


As I said, I picked mine for a very stupid reason and it made no difference--she's who is supposed to be my patron saint.

Me too.

 

Yes, I do.

bigot,
antichrist,
devil worshiper,
crayon,
homosexual,
Inquisitor.

Go with the next one.

 

I agree. I also like Catholicism because of the options available, but not required. I can say the Rosary if I want, but it's not wrong to avoid them. I can ask saints for individual intercession, but I can also freely not ask saints for anything. There are a lot of things that are optional in Catholicism. It makes for a rich religious experience.

Is that the same as Confirmation "name?" I've gotta admit, I can't remember my patron saint from confirmation. That said, several Saints are very important to me. St. Joseph and St. Anthony, especially. St. Joseph because he's the patron saint of fathers and family. St. Anthony because I lose a lot of things

 

While I know it happens, I've never personally met someone who was confirmed at 9 or 10. The usual practice is 8th or 9th grade (age 13-15 usually). The Diocese my brother lives in has changed it to 11th or 12th grade (age 16-1.

 

Actually, it's going down to 7th/8th grade.

 

What about if you count atheism to the religions? In this case you would say it's better to educate children in the religion atheism first, isn't it?

My own opinion? That's a jewish opinion: the children should become always educated in the religion of the mother until they are able to do their own decisions. But I guess that's to easy and to reasonable.

And another thing: Parents should be able to vote for their children until the children are able to do their own political decisions. First it's important to educate voters - and second it's important that children are also represented and third: the effect of political decisions for the next generations is an important thought for every politicians.

http://youtu.be/9IGkhBHsrPc

 

I have no answer to this lines.

http://youtu.be/MclLF473XtA

 

Not in the Diocese of Mobile (Alabama). They have just moved it (disastrously, IMHO) to 11th or 12th grade. Here (Diocese of Pensacola-Tallahassee), it's 9th grade (sometimes 8th or 10th).

Diocese of Mobile:
http://www.mobilearchdiocese.org/templates/readtjrarticles.cfm?Article=RodiArticle50.htm

 

That is your right as a parent. Personally, I think it's easier and more effective to teach values with the backing of a community (i.e. a church).

Pretty good observation.

Yes, I have.

 

Unitarian Universalists are the best. Quakers are pretty good too. But I'm still bothered that church has stolen the idea of "serious community" for itself. About the only thing left outside of church is "nonserious community", AKA a party. This is one of the crimes of church.

 

Where did this bit about 'serious community' come from?

I don't think the church is the only community that my kids are members of and learn from. I just think it's good to have fairly like-minded people as examples.