Why is Biden not impeached?

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  1. Aristotle66

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    He illegally held it up. Just a fact. I did not claim it was an impeachment article. It was documented by the impeachment managers. Matter of fact, not opinion.
     
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    The impeachment managers aka keystone kops.
     
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    Wow, great refutation.
     
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    Thank you, I thought so too.
     
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    how many times were the Trump's drug tested?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if the President Pardons them
     
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    That would be fun if he ran for office again
     
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    I do not think Trump is gonna run again, or Biden for that matter
     
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    I'm about their age and I wouldn't. There is one Democrat I might vote for, Joe Manchin.
     
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    This detour into the realm of absurdity arose from your initial reply:

    It was just coincidence that Sniffy's completely unqualified penisated offspring sat on the board of the company being investigated drawing at least a $600,000 salary, eh? Just one big crazy

    Given the cheap shot, sophomoric, cartoonish substandard caliber of your comment, it is below a standard which I, personally, can engage.

    See, because I indicated that your comment was substandard, you replied with the logical fallacy that my argument is an ad hominem.

    That is, indeed, a logical fallacy. Allow me to explain.

    No, it's saying I'm refusing to engage because it's substandard.

    See, IF I were criticizing the caliber of your comment in order to win the argument, then, and only then, can you attribute the characterization of 'ad hominem'.

    But I wasn't trying to win the argument, I was establishing that the caliber of your argument is below a standard which I, personally, choose to engage. Therefore, your claim of 'ad hominem' is a logical fallacy.

    See, if you break a PF rule, and the moderator interjects a comment that you violated something, his interjection would not be an 'ad hominem'. Well, I have my own standards, and the same is true for me. Of course, you do not have to follow my suggestions for improving the caliber of your commentary, nor more than I have to engage with your substandard retorts.

    However, I strongly suspect this distinction will no doubt fly right over your head.



     
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  11. gringo

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    and trump still lost by 8 million votes
     
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    It is a fact that Trump delayed delivery of the funds.
     
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    And yet joe beat trump.
     
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    The reason Biden was voted into office is simply, he wasn't Trump. No other qualification was needed. Folks, especially independents, the non-affiliated, the less to non-partisan block of voters voted to expel Trump 54-41. Not that they wanted Biden all that much, in fact quite a lot of them voted against Trump, but not necessarily for Biden. Biden just happened to be Trump's main opponent.

    After four years of Trump's 4 year old spoiled brat antics like name calling, throwing of temper tantrums along with his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics grating on them, it wouldn't have mattered if Trump's opponent was Atilla the Hun.

    Alot of those who voted for Biden, just wanted him to sit there, look and act presidential, behave like an adult. All of which Trump failed to do. One has to admit, it's quite refreshing not to have to listen to a million and one tweets everyday coming from the White House. Just breath that fresh air.

    As for impeachment, if you want Harris as president, feel free to do so.
     
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    The country must suffer for its sins: a corrupt press made Biden possible, accepting being a hidden candidate was OK. A corrupt election is gaining followers if for no other reason no one wants to take the blame.
    I hope the liberals are suffering the most. Twenty something’s are really going to get hurt with no inflatable assets, rent, lousy jobs at lousy wages. Let’s say you are twenty. You will be 23 when Biden is out. But imagine for a second we will have a recession (price inflation + increasing interest rates) hurts expansion. Inflation makes Chinese goods cheaper, so companies are less competitive.
    It is going to take ten years to get the economy back to how it was under Trump. Four yours at 6% is 24%. WHO here is expecting to get those raises? Federal, state, and local are first at the though.
     
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    If you think this dementia ridden old man got more votes than ANY other president in our history..... then the joke is on you...

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    Yep, people hated trump that much.
     
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    let me repeat... the joke is on you...
     
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    And people still hated trump that much.
     
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    You can sugar coat it all you want. It was Trump who defeated Trump, not Biden. Independents, those who ideology is for the most part, somewhere in-between the two major parties, never like Trump to begin with. Only 40% of independents had a positive view of Trump, 57% of independents had an unfavorable opinion of Trump in 2016. But Trump lucked out, he was one lucky SOB to be matched up against Hillary Clinton in which independents had a 70% unfavorable view of her. Only 27% viewed her favorably.

    In 2020, 39% of independents viewed Trump favorably, but 60% had an unfavorable view of him. Biden, 47% view Biden positively, 52% negatively. That difference in how independents viewed these two allowed Biden to win the independent vote 54-41, It was Trump personality, his uncouth, obnoxious persona that defeated him. Not necessarily his policies. Independents were split on those, they just didn't like him personally.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/nzc8dt85gn/econTabReport.pdf

    I already mention Trump receiving 41% of the independent vote in 2020. Republican congressional candidates received 48% of the independent vote allowing the GOP to pickup 13 house seats. 51% of independents voted for Republican senate candidates, 52% for Republican governor candidates. Guess who was low man on this totem poll? Actually 7 million people voted against Trump for president by voting for Biden, then voted Republican down ballot. Trump was the least like, most dislike candidate among the Republicans who were running for office in 2020. All due to Trump obnoxius personality and his childish behavior. A 74 year old acting and behaving like a 4 year old spoild brat.
     
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    The Democrats control the house and and as long that is true he can completely ignore his sworn duty to uphold the laws of the land and subvert same. Maybe just maybe if the Republicans take back the house and the Senate by a sufficient margin we start evicting the lawless felonious asshats that currently occupy the people's house.
     
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    I’m not trying to convince you that you are wrong. Genteel upper classes were truly offended by a businessman getting into politics where you can’t fire non producers at will, and the press hates you for being you.
    So now everyone suffers, (except anti Trump people who have exemptions from national economics). They are eating it up believing inflation is “transitory”. It is not. Our population is going to suffer greatly.
    On a lighter note, Biden says he is running in 2024.
     
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    Making excuses for the deployment of logical fallacies in place of factual arguments doesn't make them any less fallacious.

    Cheap shot? You mean statement of fact. Do you dispute that Hooker Beater (aka "Hunter") Biden was completely unqualified for a position on the board of directors of a multinational energy conglomerate? If you feel my assessment of its qualifications is inaccurate, I am happy to review any factual evidence you care to offer in rebuttal. Please present it at your convenience.

    Interesting tactic. Trading one fallacy for another. The well-worn straw man! Your comment was not in reference to my argument, but to me. IE "argument to the man." Or in Latin, "argumentum ad hominem." So please don't pretend you were attacking my argument whe stating you know what my "problem" is.

    Laughable. You are claiming my pointing out your fallacy is a fallacy on my part. Now that's rich! And of course yet another fallacy.

    Now you're just obfuscating. You said you know "what my problem is." You can't unsay it. No takebacksies!

    For the third time, you were not attacking my argument. Please stop pretending you were.

    It was not a claim. It was a statement of fact. My "problem" (notwithstanding your banal assessment) is not the topic of this thread no matter how hard you close your eyes and clench your fists. Therefore as your speculative dalliance does not provide evidence in support of your position, it constitutes a logical fallacy, an error in reasoning. In this case, making your opponent the topic, "argument to the man." Or in Latin, argumentum ad hominem.

    Fallacy, red herring. You are moving further and further from the topic, your "argument" having been soundly defeated.

    Again if you dispute my facts, present your factual rebuttal. But making your opponent the topic is sloppy, intellectually vapid, and an error in reasoning, aka a logical fallacy, "argument to the man." Or argumentum ad hominem in Latin.

    Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem. I am not the topic of this thread. A factual rebuttal addressing the topic would better support your position.
     
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    congratulations, you missed the point entirely.

    An ad hominem argument means I attacked you, personally, in order to win an argument.

    I didn't do that. I expressed that your cheap shot doesn't merit a response.

    Learn the difference or don't respond.
     
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    No. I did not. Not even a little bit. I got your point exactly. You are trying to make excuses for the multiple logical fallacies you are trying to pass off as an "argument." I am not the topic of this thread. Nothing you can say or do will ever change that. A factual rebuttal addressing the topic would better support your "argument."

    Sigh. Wrong. For the 34th time. :roll:

    You said you "know what my problem is." My "problem" is not the topic of this thread. Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem. A factual rebuttal addressing the topic would better support your "argument."

    You have yet to provide evidnce of this alleged "cheap shot," despite my numerous requests.

    Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem. A factual rebuttal addressing the topic would better support your "argument."
     
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