Why is black America always protesting but never fixing their culture ?l

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    I can't explain it but I know what I see. Look at the conditions of countries where the population has dark skin. Then look at the neighborhoods here in the States where the majority of residents have dark skin. Yes, I can't put it in exact words but I know irresponsibility and just plain laziness when I see it. Thus we should refuse to accept any lame excuse for failure. It's the actions of the individual, not a fault of another race, any president, any politician, any school, any police, wealthy people, or any business.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    Clearly, you don't understand things (or are in denial of what is).

    So be it.

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    You are in serious denial. :(

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    That's stupid man. And you are also in denial of the truth.

    I think we as Americans have had enough of that.
     
  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Have you noted the effect upon lands where people of White skin have dominated the people of color?

    You are trying to reconstruct reality itself. Some of the greatest perpetrators of hatred, oppression and overall strife in this world, have been White, religious people.

    Maybe on this website, it's comfortable denying what Whites have caused and perpetrated over time/space... but surely it is reality that Whites cannot stand back from what ails virtually ALL of mankind and get away with claiming relatively little responsibility. That's just ludicrous.
     
  4. perotista

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    I think there was an American culture when America was considered the melting pot of the world. When immigrants came to this country and in a generation or two lost the culture of the old country. The goal was integration of those who came here in the bigger American culture.

    But we are no longer the melting pot. Diversity has taken the place of the melting pot. My wife took her citizenship test 25 years ago and was taught in her citizenship classes that we have no hyphenated Americans. We all are Americans regardless of where we came from or what religion we have. Not any more, we have African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Native-Americans, Hispanic-Americans and I suppose the only ones left, whites, perhaps they are Americans without a hyphen.

    Instead of integration we now segregate people according to race. It seems we in a political correct way have gone back to segregation. Perhaps not the harsh Jim Crowe type, but segregation nonetheless.

    The dream of all of us regardless of race, creed, where they are from being an old plain American is gone.
     
  5. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The latest protests are due to a wave of unarmed black men being killed by police officers. Unjustified killing is not the fault of the victim regardless of their culture.
     
  6. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They may have been unarmed, but almost all committed criminals acts just before they got shot. Brown for instance just did a strong arm robbery, and then attack a police officer and tried to take his gun.
     
  7. Just A Man

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    Sure, some whites have been evil, some blacks have been evil. Here in the U.S. there is no hatred or oppression. Blacks have had the greatest opportunity anywhere in the world for the past 50 years. You condemn whites, yet you fail to mention the fact that it's mostly white societies who invent, produce, give aid, feed others, and come to the rescue when there is a crisis, regardless of race in need. If you compare a black society with a white society you see the difference is stark. Remember the Japanese who were interred in California at the start of WW2? It was a neighborhood of Japanese who kept their structures clean, kept the grounds neat, did not tolerate crime, and they elected officials of leadership. That my friend is what is missing in the black neighborhoods. But that is not the fault of an Anglo or a Japanese.
     
  8. Johnny-C

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    We can look at the 'world'... but let's focus upon the U.S.A.

    What happened here?

    The answer to that largely explains what this nation has been through and is going through, especially with respect to the struggles of Black people living here. There is NO GETTING AROUND THAT!! And people who DO try playing-down our history and its legacy effects, are just playing an old, tired and stupid game.

    Stop trying to blame Black people, for what many Whites have caused or contributed to over many generations.

    If we don't face the truth, we will NOT solve the problems right before our eyes.
     
  9. FreshAir

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    yeah right, cause there are no poor republicans right, get real....

    the republicans may bow at the feet of rich people, but they are not all rich.....

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  10. HB Surfer

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    Who said Republicans were all rich? Thanks for the straw man.

    Demographically, blacks are poor as a group. That is the point. I hope you figure that out before you post more idiocy, because I want the 15 seconds back I took to read and respond to your retarded post.
     
  11. Wake_Up

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    Still stuck in the past, huh?

    Slavery and rights movements, etc have come and gone. We have anti-discriminatory laws in place. We have equal rights. None of that, however is the issue now.

    When you have a culture that leans heavily on their skin color as reason to not do something, or as an excuse to do something, the problem is no longer about what they're being told others are doing to them.

    The problem now are those who continue to perpetuate the idea that they are grossly discriminated against at every turn.

    Throw a helping of entitlement on top of it and you get what we have now...a minority group incapable, on a majority scale, of helping themselves.

    It's much easier to maintain the mindset that whitey is putting you down and collect what meager offerings your democrat masters manage to wrangle for you.

    Of course, this mindset can't, and won't pervade forever, things will have to change and they will, one way or another.

    Besides, it's getting much harder to claim the man is keeping you down when the president of the U.S. is black.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    How did Blacks end up that way and STAY that way for so long? (It's important to be honest about that, if you are to paint an accurate picture of reality.)
     
  13. Wake_Up

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    What's in denial is you over the fact that this isn't the 1800's any more, blacks haven't been slaves for a very long time, they have equal rights, and we have been bending over to give them special treatment for many years. Affirmative action? They can have black only clubs, TV channels, contests, organizations, etc...hell even within our own government they get the black caucus.

    Please, tell us how they're being so down trodden these days by whitey and the system...but let me get a beer and some popcorn first 'cuz this ought to be good...
     
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    It all goes back to Lyndon B. Johnson's quote and the Welfare State Liberals created.

    "I'll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years"
    - Democratic President, Lyndon B. Johnson

    There you have it.
     
  15. Wake_Up

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    Obama brought up the crusades too...but rest assured, we have the evil, murdering white crusaders under control....1000 years ago.
     
  16. Wake_Up

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    Indeed, and I always wondered why this is happening. Isn't the entire point of coming here is to become an American? To leave behind whatever it was that made you want to get away from it?

    No one should ever shed their heritage or roots and never speak of it, it should be celebrated, but never used as a divisive line. America enjoys so many great things as a result of it's melting pot heritage. We have great varieties of food, drink, dance, art, knowledge, etc. The point is to incorporate those things INTO our heritage, not come here and demand everyone else recognize you as a hyphen.

    I saw that a lot when I was living in Texas...Mexicans wanted to come live here, but they would waive the Mexican flag and spit on America. I don't get it. Why the hell would you denigrate the country you so badly want to live in? It makes no sense.

    If Mexico is so great, WTF are you here?
     
  17. Esau

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    the mexicans want their land back. let them try.
     
  18. Wake_Up

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    Where has anyone denied the atrocious history of blacks in this country? Where?

    YOU my friend are playing the tired old game of throwing out the race card.

    To be very, very specific, people are sick and tired of the racism BS.

    Practically every negative interaction that involves a black and another race is immediately and automatically labelled racism.

    You are right, it is old and tiresome.

    We can lament and wail about the past all day long, but this is no longer the past. Blacks have had above par opportunities for a very long time, yet a large percentage of their culture still clings to that past and use it vociferously in attempts to game the system.

    Sorry, but your special pass has expired.

    You pissed away your opportunities and chose instead to beat the same old, tired drum.

    Of course, I don't blame the blacks completely, they've had a lot of help along the way, thanks to the democrats, and LBJ in particular.

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    The democrats, as I have told you before.
     
  19. Wake_Up

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    Eh, I get what you're saying, but that too is a tired old trot that many liberals like to bring up.

    There isn't a square inch of land on this earth that wasn't taken from someone else at some point in time, so the whole argument that someone else is the "true" owner is ridiculous at best.

    But I'm with you, if you want to take land from us, then come and take it...if you can.

    Of course, there are ways of getting things other than brute force....and if the dems and libs have their way, some will succeed.
     
  20. Lil Mike

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    Maybe you could clear that up for me. I've been hearing the "legacy of slavery/racism" theory all my life, but how does that actually play out? For a black child entering First Grade this year, how will the the legacy of slavery and racism keep him down, so that when he's a father with a child entering first grade, that child will still be struggling with the legacy of racism and slavery?

    I guess what I'm asking is, what exactly is the mechanism that cripples people so they can never catch up?
     
  21. Lil Mike

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    Frankly, I still find myself crippled by the legacy of the Crusades.
     
  22. Esau

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    the land is for anyone who can possess it by fair means or foul.
     
  23. Ronstar

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    no black leaders have the balls to say what really must be done to REALLY help the black community.

    those who want more government programs and benefits, seem to own the mic.
     
  24. Daniel Light

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    Attitude.

    You see it throughout this thread. "Black people won't do this" and "black people won't do that". It's an attitude that a number of people have toward black people - they don't see them as a Black Person. Businesses are less likely to hire them because they think that every black person comes in hauling the entirety of black people with them, and they don't want to deal with that.

    A recent study sent out the EXACT SAME resume to different companies in response to adds for positions. Same resume, except the name was changed to either a "white" sounding name or a "black" sounding name. The white sounding name had a much higher call back rate. Same resume.

    That is the mechanism. Attitude.
     
  25. Lil Mike

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    When you say attitude, and then you are use the example of the resumes, what you are really saying seems to be current white racism. I guess you didn't really understand what I was asking.
     

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