Doesn't somebody on this planet have a sliver of faith? Because if they did we'd see mountains moving wouldn't we. Isn't that one of the things Jesus said?
You are acting like someone who is obsessed with telling lies. The poster made no mention of "culture". Therefore, you are being intellectually dishonest.
Gee... 'society' is not 'culture'. So which do you want it to be. The culture I born in was that belonging to the Southeastern United States Farmers. The society which I grew up in was that of the sprawling metropolis of Chicago. Now which one was responsible for my morals?
Now that would be a hell of a mess. Imagine Mt Everest zooming through the sky. The whole concept is funny. It's like StarWars where the Jedi can move objects and control people with just their minds. But they still get into hand-to-hand light saber fights instead of simply causing the other guy to have a heart attack or something. It makes for good sci-fi action and silly religious stories but the writers didn't really think it through. Imagine Moses parting the Red Sea and the Israelites walking through it. The Egyptian wizards show up and conjure up a giant lawn mower to mow them down like grass.
While we are in the 'imagining' mood, imagine God speaking a single syllable and all of the Atheists are gone; or better yet, instead of being gone, they all become worshipers, bowing down at the feet of Jesus. Wow.. what a sight that would be.
That's the only way it will happen. - - - Updated - - - Can you really trust a blue god? http://www.sanatansociety.org/hindu_gods_and_goddesses/vishnu.htm
Which way would that be? Through the imaginative powers of man? So be it. Let me remind you of a passage of scripture dealing with the imagination of man: "Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." So, as you see, God does recognize the powers of mans imagination.... so be careful with those imaginings. - - - Updated - - - Which way would that be? Through the imaginative powers of man? So be it. Let me remind you of a passage of scripture dealing with the imagination of man: "Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." So, as you see, God does recognize the powers of mans imagination.... so be careful with those imaginings.
Why should one hate untruth? It is just ignorance, muddle, brainwashing or con-man's work, and hating justs hooks you in on the game. If it stands in the way of something important, confute it to those capable of hearing. Hate just makes for rant. Very many things are lies, surely. What, after all, is Truth? asked jesting Iolo.
Actually the use of the "Atheists hate God" "argument"...is an attempt to set their goal-posts almost to their own line of scrimmage. By starting off with "Atheists hate God"...the first assumption is....God exists. So that's already supposed to be accepted. And any questioning of that first premise indicates automatic personality fault in the person questioning it. So they already start with the ball (debate-wise) and with 1 yard and goal to go and then dive into the end-zone. Which basically shows the dishonesty of the premise...and the weakness of the arguer.
I think you meant that post for someone else as I've not mentioned "zoroasterianism" or "ahura mazda".
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Where did I say god created something out of nothing? sigh, if you need me to comment on a simplistic level for you to understand then I will, however I suspect you have enough intelligence to understand exactly what I meant. ie - if you were born in a Christian country and grew up in a Christian country your morals will, in their formative period, be Christian based, however if you were born in a Muslim country and grew up in a Muslim country your morals will, in their formative period, be Muslim based .. so, without any bias, tell me which are the truer morals?
It was inferred when you stated " I don't need to be a scientist to know you cannot create something from nothing," and then enjoin that statement with the citation of Genesis 1:1. What was present before God performed the creation? In spite of this level of intelligence that you suspect me to have, (and by the way thank you for that vote of confidence), I would enjoy hearing/reading your explanation. Not necessarily true. Example: it is sometimes presumed that the United States is a Christian country (for the sake of argument, let us make that presumption based on the population that is predominately Christian); a child born in this Christian country, by Atheist Mom and Dad, with Mom and Dad teaching the child that religion is false, that the Bible is a fairy tale, that there is no God or gods; what set of morals will that child find him/her self possessing?
Along with that would come the problem of defining 'morals' and determining who has the authority to dictate or even publish such standards as a moral code. So you see, you argument about growing up in a Christian country resulting in Christian based morals is faulty.
That is quite an 'off the wall' interpretation of what has been stated as a rebuttal to your claim that growing up in a Christian country would result in a Christian based set of morals. Especially 'off the wall' when you fail to respond to the example I cited about the Atheist family growing up in a Christian country. Of course there are Christian morals and there is a Christian based morality. Are you suggesting that the morals used by Atheists are Christian based? Now my question to you would be why would an Atheist family adopt the moral code of a religious group when it is a known and published fact that Atheists abhor Christianity and the teachings of Christianity. Are the Atheists not courageous enough to reject in its totality, the morals belonging to a religious group regardless of the label placed on that religious group? As I see it, the adoption of moral codes belonging to a religious group is the same as adopting the religious group itself. Doesn't Atheism have its own set of moral codes that are not based on Christianity?
You argue in support of the claim... therefore,,, you adopt the claim.... - - - Updated - - - You argue in support of the claim... therefore,,, you adopt the claim....
which one of the question marks confused you?? hahahaahahahaha damn youre easy "so there is no such thing as Christian based morality??"
Neither one confused me.... I answered the question (both of them). Now why don't you do the same with the questions that I have previously posed to you? - - - Updated - - - Neither one confused me.... I answered the question (both of them). Now why don't you do the same with the questions that I have previously posed to you?
so link us to my agreement with his claim - - - Updated - - - so link us to my agreement with his claim