Why Outlaw Assault Rifles

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Just A Man, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Discipline doesn't have to be easy, but it's pretty effective. Encouraging discipline would solve many of these issues much easier than the country chasing (wholly ineffectively) after one symptom or the next.
     
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    I'm ignorant of that definition -- do tell.
     
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    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    To an innocent person who has been killed they don't care whether the killing weapon was a spear or a tommy-gun or buckshot.
     
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    Sorry it is not in common use for that purpose. Or any other sort of crime. Pistols are the overwhelming choice for murders robberies and the like.
     
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    Discipline starts with children. Parents, teachers, and other types of guardians can do this. When adults let children do whatever the consequences are they turn into young adults who can't control high emotional stress. American society does not need to violate individual freedoms to discipline children.
     
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    Some people aren't interested in facts that negate their narrative.
     
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    Correct.

    Bad people cause **** for good people.
    I have to pay for a military because bad people exist.
    I have to go through searches at airports because bad people exist.
    I am not allowed every gun I see on the movies, because bad people exist.


    In the UK knife ban = children can't buy knives.
    Gang members carrying knives are kids not adults.

    It also means you aren't allowed to carry them around.
    So I can be nicked for carrying a knife. And this is because.. there has been a load of knife crime recently.

    I appreciate you don't think you would ever use a gun criminally, let alone allow your gun to fall into criminal hands, but there is no way I can tell this just by your say so mate.
    Get real.
     
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    Right, I ask again, how do you enforce this without violating individual freedoms?
     
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    Yes I agree it's effective for the relatively few who have it. It's just not as simple as encouraging it for people to become disciplined. Let's face it....it's MUCH easier to not be disciplined. What's easier...coming home after a long day of work and sitting on the couch to watch tv or hit the gym for a workout or going for a run? What's more fun...eating a bunch of homemade chocolate chip cookies or stopping at just one?
    There is a reason we are a fat fcuk nation....on the whole we are an undisciplined nation.
     
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    Point of fact, I asked for the purpose of an automatic weapon - not a gun. There is a massive difference.
     
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    Primarily? Suppressive fire.
     
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    How common for that purpose does it's use have to be?

    More children are massacred with pistols?
    Then expect pistols to be banned too.
     
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    ROFLMAO

    Do a lot of suppressive firing do you?

    A bet all your paper targets are just running for cover, too scared to shoot back.


    You are using them primarily for fun mate.
    Which is why no one really gives a **** if you lose that right.

    Tommy guns got banned.
    Constitution or no constitution.

    Criminals or no criminals.

    They got banned.
    It happened and it will happen again.

    In a crime wave, people will address those crimes.
    Expect it.
     
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    How does disciplining children or teaching them how to cope with frustration or other negative emotions a violation of individual freedoms?
     
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    You remove their freedom to cope with it their own way.
    Instead you force them to conform to your ways.
     
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    wrong, as usual. have you ever even read the constitution? it isn't about what the people should or shouldn't do, it's about defining the scope of government. we tried adding nonsensical things like bans into the constitution and it was a fiasco. remember prohibition? when people like you try to warp the constitution into your own personal plaything, it only makes the situation worse.
     
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    How do you enforce the disciplining of children without violation individual freedoms?
     
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    Discipline may be hard so it must be promoted. As you are saying things are out of control because America as a whole lacks control. These ideas that oh well discipline is too hard so let's treat the symptoms haven't helped at all. In fact, the reactionary bs and obvious and the defeatist attitudes on discipline only enables things to get more out of hand.
     
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    So do gang members just suddenly stop being part of a gang when they are no longer a child? What is going on in the UK that there are children gangs?
    Oh good....glad the law is that they aren't allowed to carry the knives around. That works well. No one has ever been know to break laws.
     
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    Pretty much yes.
    Gang members grow up.

    Gangs exist in every culture.
    In every society ever.


    If you are looking for Utopia, you are going to be looking for a long long time.
    No one is promising you a perfect world mate.

    All laws get broken. Doesn't mean they aren't worth having.
     
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    Is there? What do you consider to be an 'assault' weapon?
     
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    Apparently, coping with it in their own way in the current event resulted in murder suicide.
     
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    Yes gangs exist in many cultures....and many don't just stop being part of a gang just because they turned 18
     
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    Gun owners do not wish to accept the discipline of disarmament.
    Any more than child wishes to accept discipline either.

    But accept it they will.
     
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