WNBA star Brittney Griner transferred to Russian forced labor camp

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  1. Egoboy

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    Because your boss won't trade him until we offer him something he wants...

    Consider volunteering... it's not so bad over there... or do you not remember your training days?
     
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    There is no reason why you would trade up an ARMS DEALER for some ****ing basketball player when you have people who SERVED YOUR COUNTRY being held since 2018...none. Zero. She offers no value and jumped the que.

    And if you think that's because she's a basketball player and NOT because she's black and gay, you are lying to yourself.

    This was a race based decision. People are going to see it as such because it's obvious. And welcome to the America Biden is creating.
     
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    Who do you have?

    I think they were working on the half point system, with a full Boebert being worth 2 Herschels (which I would reverse myself, after this recent campaign)..

    So, IOW, it was 3.5 level of stupid..

    The question then becomes, what is 1 MTG worth?
     
  4. Egoboy

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    Well, the good news here, besides the return of an American, is that while BG returns to celebrations and a probable return to her career, the Merchant of Death (and why has no band ever taken that name, BTW?) returns to a country crumbling from the inside, probably to a life of suspicion... after all, who can know what he told the Americans during his captivity? He certainly won't...
     
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    If your Biden can't negotiate a MARINE from 2018 for an ARMS DEALER and could only get a female basket ball player...he lost the negotiations. So either he's inadequate at negotiating or he's racist.

    Those are your two options. Pick one.
     
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    He is a different story. He wasn't smuggling drugs from The United States to Russia (is Griner going to be charged for bring a controlled substance on an aircraft?).
     
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    Besides
    For starters your straight white patriotic Marine was thrown of of the Marines.

    Snip.

    "After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.[9][10]

    The specific charges against him included "attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another’s social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment."[11]



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Whelan_(security_director)
     
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    So is Bout you should read up on him.

    And YES Biden should have demanded Whelan he be released BEFORE Griner.
     
  9. Izzy

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    Whelan was arrested in Russia on Dec. 28, 2018.
    Trump had over 2 years to negotiate and get him back and he loves military thugs...hands out pardons to them like candy.

    The guy has citizenship in 3 other countries yet everything is Biden's fault.

    It would be great if both came home but they didn't and comparing them to each other and what they were convicted of is not only naïve it's ridiculous.

    Paul Whelan (security director) - Wikipedia
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    2 hours ago — Paul Nicholas Whelan (born March 5, 1970) is a Canadian-born former United States Marine with U.S., British, Irish and Canadian citizenship.
     
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    Since you are so into comparing tham Griner far surpasses Whelan in what she's given America.

    She represented the USA 2x at the Olympics and she and her team brought home Gold each time.

    Whelan was court-martial 'ed and left the Marines with a "bad conduct" discharge.
     
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    Trump isn't president. Creepy Joe is. This is all on him
     
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    It will come out shortly that Russia gave Biden a choice: Griner or Whelan and Biden choose Griner. The White House is again passing lies and disinformation.
     
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    No the other option is Russia is unwilling to trade Whelan for the arms dealer regardless of who is negotiating, either because they see Whelan as especially significant or think they can use him to get somebody else they want back. And that is what has been reported... Biden asked for both. Russia said no way.
     
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    Brandon gave Moscow a huge win. Maybe he's in bed with Russians.
     
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    He is in bed with China, Ukraine and I would guess his crackhead son got deals in Russia. 10% for "The Big Guy".
     
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    Trump was the president for 2 yrs a 2 months and did **** while Whelan was jailed in Russia.
    He obviously was too scared of his master Putin to get involved.

    I didn't hear any bitching from Trump's peanut gallery then or now about Trump, they probably didn't want to distract him while he was playing 4D chess, eh? :roflol:
     
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    Then you dont trade the arms dealer. Because ARMS DEALER.
     
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    Paul's brother David interview.


    "It is so important to me that it is clear that we do not begrudge Ms. Griner her freedom," David Whelan said. "As I have often remarked, Brittney's and Paul's cases were never really intertwined. It has always been a strong possibility that one might be freed without the other."

    A senior U.S. official said the U.S. government had sought to have both Griner and Whelan released as part of a swap with the Kremlin, which wanted the return of Viktor Bout, a Russian arms dealer who has served 11 years of a 25-year sentence in the U.S. But the official said that Russia has treated Whelan differently because he is accused of spying and that the Kremlin ultimately gave the White House the choice of Griner or no one after different options were proposed.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ned-russia-says-warned-brittney-gri-rcna60732
     
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    Then you don't make the trade. You don't let the Kremlin dictate the terms. Grovelling for their scraps while saying please.

    ARMS. DEALER.

    You don't trade up that for a basketball player. Also I'm sure the official is going to state "We picked Griner because black and gay...we thought it would be virtuous." lol.
     
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    Now it's the "ARMS DEALER"...LOL

    You'd have no problem if Whelan was traded for the arms dealer, cause he's white and was a Marine, that is before court martialed and discharged for 'bad conduct" and Griner sat in prison for 11yrs.

    You're pissed because you've repeatedly said Griner was swapped because she's "black" and "gay".
     
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    I dont believe the official. Sorry. They could paint a sign with fancy rainbow colors and I still wouldn't believe the official. Because the official is not going to admit that they traded up Griner because female black and gay. But she checks ALLLL the indentity virtue boxes. Well would be better if she were trans but you can't have everything, right?
     
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    Totally WRONG!:bored:
    Even such a misguided suggestion insults the intelligence of anybody with an IQ above single digits...
    Russia considered Whelan to be at a "higher level", everybody who is even remotely informed on the issue is aware of that...
    There was NEVER any sort of "choice: Griner or Whelan"...
    That was NEVER even on the table...
     
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    :roflol:
    Totally...:bored:
    But, don't take my word for it...
    I have some top secret info that you may find informative...
    Biden ******* Putin ***** * ******** Griner **** Then ***** *** And *** ****** Plus *** * *****
    I hope that I cleared that up...
     
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    No need for you to admit it, you screamed it in all your posts.

    Now it's the "ARMS DEALER"...LOL

    You'd have no problem if Whelan was traded for the arms dealer, cause he's white and was a Marine, that is before court martialed and discharged for 'bad conduct" and Griner sat in prison for 11yrs.

    You're pissed because you've repeatedly said Griner was swapped because she's "black" and "gay".
     
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    To educate you:

    Whelan’s Russian lawyer, Vladimir Zherebenkov, also said Thursday that the deal was an exchange of “one to one,” and that choosing Griner appeared “more humane” because she is a woman and an Olympic champion, while Whelan was in the military and it is “easier for him to be in custody.” - Erik Ortiz & Hayley Walker

    Before you insult people, maybe get some facts first.
     

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