WNBA star Brittney Griner transferred to Russian forced labor camp

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by TheAngryLiberal, Nov 9, 2022.

  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,916
    Likes Received:
    11,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Victor Bout is a Russian competitor to Raytheon and other US arms traffickers. Naturally, he is seen as a threat.
     
  2. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,308
    Likes Received:
    9,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't ……
     
  3. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    31,803
    Likes Received:
    7,869
    Trophy Points:
    113

    we tend to be on the losing side of diplomacy. A US citizen is back home.
     
  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nah.... it's the same as the token "thoughts and prayers" when Americans are killed.... just keep it all...

    We traded a Russian citizen for a US citizen.... If you want fair trading, I suggest you become a MLB General Manager.... Maybe you could have gotten some AAA Americans thrown in??
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you are not aware of whom that citizen is?
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    41,208
    Likes Received:
    20,973
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Who said he was damned? The ungrateful affected family and a couple of liberals? He could've very well left her there and I would've said: Best decision of the administration.

    If the Russians told me it was either the WNBA star or the marine, I go with the marine without a second thought.
     
    HockeyDad likes this.
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Damned on THIS deal which as National Review put it

    A Terrible Concession to Putin’s Russia

    Today you’re going to hear a lot of people defending the Biden administration’s deal to secure the release of Brittney Griner by giving Viktor Bout, the world’s most notorious arms dealer with a metaphorical ocean of blood on his hands, back to Russia. (I called the then-potential deal a “moral abomination” back in August.) Not securing the release of Paul Whelan makes this bad deal even worse.

    A lot of defenders of the deal will contend that critics are indifferent to the suffering of Griner, which is a dodge and a smear. The question is not, “is it in the interest of the U.S. government to secure the release of Brittney Griner?” That’s a silly question; the U.S. never wants to see its citizens unfairly detained under brutal conditions on trumped-up charges. The question is, what is an appropriate concession to secure the release of those citizens, and does the payment of the ransom make future problems like this more likely?
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-terrible-concession-to-putins-russia/

    Tell me had it been Osama Bin Laden to be traded would you have supported it?
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    For Putin and Russia and our enemies not the United States and why should Bout get a "good resolution" you support Bout now?
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    NEGOTIATE???? This was a total cave in.

    Tell me had it been Osama Bin Laden to be traded would you have supported it?
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2022
  10. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    41,208
    Likes Received:
    20,973
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Speaking of Baseball, my Phillies acquired Trea Turner and Tajuan Walker. We definitely came out of the winter meetings ahead.
     
  11. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,638
    Likes Received:
    9,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Did Biden really just exchange a gd arms dealer for a gay female basketball player?

    That doesn't seem to be a fair trade at all.

    Russia won that one. LOL. Biden scored those ever important virtue points though!
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2022
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  12. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,638
    Likes Received:
    9,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    She hates america enough to disrespect the anthem and flag for ****ing virtue points. This was a bad trade.
     
  13. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2020
    Messages:
    10,605
    Likes Received:
    10,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Depends if you give a f*ck or not about your citizens, don't you think?

    I am glad she's out.
     
  14. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,705
    Likes Received:
    6,228
    Trophy Points:
    113
    **Citizens that agree with your political philosophy** sees to be the approach for many
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2022
  15. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,638
    Likes Received:
    9,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    **** her. **** her black privledge. She is a useless waste of trade. We just gave up a gd ARMS DEALER for a gay black female basketball player who hates her country.

    This would have been a bit closer to even steven because MARINE...but white man so back of the bus, ya?

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...ailed-in-russia-left-behind-in-prisoner-swap/

    upload_2022-12-8_12-10-23.png

    **** I hate this administration and it's bias and useless bullshit.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2022
  16. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2020
    Messages:
    10,605
    Likes Received:
    10,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Politics shouldn't come into it. You can sort that out later...
     
  17. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2018
    Messages:
    12,354
    Likes Received:
    11,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yea, Biden is not exactly a pillar of strength when it comes to foreign policy. Putin owns him like Putin owned Obama.
     
    HockeyDad and ToughTalk like this.
  18. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2020
    Messages:
    10,605
    Likes Received:
    10,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'd like to know more about the story of the marine.

    Griner is one of 11 women to receive an Olympic gold medal, an NCAA championship, a FIBA World Cup gold medal and a WNBA championship.
     
  19. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,638
    Likes Received:
    9,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I dont give a rats ass about her accomplishments. Its a gd BASKET BALL PLAYER for an ARMS DEALER. Are you kidding me?!

    She got swapped because she's ****ing black and gay.
     
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  20. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Could be a sick team if Harper can come back by the ASB .... they should be in contention even without him...

    Don't fall in love with T. Walker though... he'll blow your mind in one start and break your heart in the next... But solid #3 after Nola and Wheeler...
     
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  21. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Was a good trade for you... You got one of your arms dealers back...
     
  22. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,638
    Likes Received:
    9,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Incase your new on the uptick, I'm actually very much not pro Russia, you'd know that if you stopped to read any of the ukraine threads. But unlike you I can call this exactly what it is. Vitue slinging racist black gay privledge which somehow propelled a ****ing country hating basketball player above a ****ing MARINE who had been detained since 2018.

    Putin won this trade because Biden is a virtue slinging racist **** up.
     
  23. Izzy

    Izzy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2022
    Messages:
    10,665
    Likes Received:
    6,088
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    If the unpatriotic Trump was still in office he'd love it if she sat in a Russian jail for her full sentence.
    That is unless he could personally benefit in some way.
     
  24. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,638
    Likes Received:
    9,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump would have been mature enough to keep racist identity **** out of this and would have traded up a marine or of equal value to that of an arms dealer.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe likes this.
  25. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    23,044
    Likes Received:
    15,511
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Victimization much? The world is just unfair for the Democrats...lol
     

Share This Page