Would Trump work more effectively with Congress than Obama?

Isnt that obvious? Obama signed off on all this bullcrap, and spewed lies to get it all passed.

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Did the RP Congress defund any of The Obama administrations programs?

 

Okay, we're talking past each other. Yes, of course it's obvious. Your partisanship is also obvious. Please try to be objective and describe how any of this would change under a Trump administration. Myself, I don't see it. First of all, Trump is just as dishonest as any president I can think of in recent memory. Secondly, he is just one man up against an institution and the Constitution. How is Trump going to work with Congress without back room deals being made? I don't see it happening. Indeed, if you think Obama has been a "my way or the highway" president, wait until Trump takes office. He'll be much worse than Obama.

 

At least, Obama had strong support from congressmen in his own party. Trump is very fond of walls, and he has essentially built one between himself and Republican ideology.

For some reason, he doesn't seem worried about alienating other conservatives.

Hillary is white also, but Republicans don't seem to like her any better than they like Obama.

 

They removed subsidies from the ACA, hoping that that would make it fail.

 

This is the problem we've had with government for the last forty years. Governing is not about anyone's "soul." I don't give a damn about the "souls" of government officials. I don't respect an electorate that takes defeat personally. It's not a game. It's a job. Screw the ideological purity and do your damn jobs. Purity is for church, not government.

 

Do you know which bill removed those subsidies? The Cromnibus?

 

We can put the blame on the President or on Congress. . . . Whose ratings are higher now?

 

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Actually I see it differently. Trump did something neither Sanders or Warren had the guts to do, run square against your own parties wishes. Think back. What really started this whole Trump thing going was his stand on immigration....a topic neither party wanted brought up in this election. Trust me, I don't agree with anything he says or does but what he did, was an act of defiance. He acted against the wishes of the duopoly called, the Republicrat party. I have to give him credit for that.

 

Cromnibus was an emergency funding bill to prevent a government shutdown. What I am talking about is technical wording or Constitutionality challenges to funding sources, which were designed to sabotage the ACA.A

 

Did it actually sabotage the ACA? What was the end result?
I do not intend to put you on the spot if you do not have the information handy.
But I am interested in RP legislative strategy.

 

You could have just said he would be like bill and hillary.

 

Congress is chatting with the lobsters next to the whale dung.

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How can you say that after the Clintons gave everything they had to help the poor Haitians?

 

Then neither do you give a damn about America's founding principles, as it is the state of an official's soul which determines his or her affinity for said principles, which are the only barrier between Americans and tyranny.

 

Sanders and Trump pointed out obvious faults in BOTH parties which no other candidate dared to mention. The public was impressed, but politicians were flabbergasted.

Trump is a salesman, and he sold himself by giving the voters what they wanted to hear. Maybe now the " silent majority" will become vocal.

 

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In the end, both Sanders and Warren supported Hillary. Both lost a sizeable amount of support for doing that.

 

True, but they are supporting the party. Trump has no party. He had nothing to lose, therefore, what he did does not indicate any strength of character. It simply shows he's an opportunist.

 

Sanders did not support Hillary until after he lost the nomination.

But, IMO, Hillary is a safer bet than Donald. I believe that the indictments against her were exaggerated and "Trumped up".

 

It's not different at all. Both are business deals where one party gets the other party to say "yes".

 

Not only will they lose seats in the house, but their chances of retaining the Senate are iffy at best...

 

But in both instances the other party must be willing to buy your product.

 

Two facts are readily apparent. One, Trump's numbers in polls are, regretfully, rising. Two, this flies in the face of horrendous errors in judgment, and I am talking about recently, not his bombastic period during the primaries. Conclusion, Trump supporters avoid reality and Trump is literally leading a rebellion. There is no other conclusion that can be reached.

What errors in judgment? He traveled to Mexico and lied to the Mexican President. In the news conference that followed their private meeting, he lied to the press and the American public. He appeared on a Russian controlled propaganda network and criticized a former American President of his own party and criticized the current President. This week he lied to the media that he was going to hold a press conference. He spoke for eight minutes mostly about the great lodgings in his hotel then left the podium abruptly without answering any questions from the press. In that eight minute speech he admitted lying for five years about the birther controversy by finally admitting that Obama was born in the U.S. He offered no apology to our President. Yesterday he lied when he said that Hillary wants to destroy the Second Amendment.

Then he committed an egregious error in judgment by saying, “I think that her bodyguards should drop all weapons. They should disarm. Right? I think they should disarm immediately. Take their guns away. She doesn’t want guns … let’s see what happens to her. Take their guns away, OK? It’d be very dangerous.” How is it possible that a U.S. Presidential candidate could say such a thing? The answer is he is a joke.

And Trump surrogates are playing right along with the jokester. They delight in his outrageous statements as they are in full rebellion. They are too foolish to consider the consequences of this man becoming President. Like the reality of Trump's abhorrent behavior, they don't want to think about it.

 

That's a simplistic and naive view. A business is private property. A business owner is beholden to no one but himself. Government officials are beholden to their constituents. Business has one concern: money. Government certainly has money as a concern, but it's main duty is law. They are not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. You may as well equate a marriage proposal with a bill in Congress.

 

Obama with a real popularity rating of about thirty-five, obviously. Still he was the Obstructionist-in-Chief.

 

How many bills did he veto or threaten to veto vs. how many bills did the Senate and House refuse to bring to the floor? That would be the true measure.