Would Trump work more effectively with Congress than Obama?

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  1. thinkitout

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    Reject reality, but it won't change just because you want it to.
     
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    I reject MSM fantasy-based political propaganda and the judgment of history will back me. It's just going to take a decade or two for that to happen, for it to be SAFE for historians to tackle the real Obama without risking their careers due to leftist Political Correctness.
     
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    Not! if Democrats in Congress choose to Fillerbuster EVERYTHING just like the Republicans did to Obama in order to make Donald Trump a One Term President. If that happens, the Republicans certainly deserve it.
     
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    I am not conservative. I do not like a lot about trump. I think his only good quality is surrounding himself with folks smarter than he is and listening to them.

    Also, I have seen enough of Hillary to think she is a sociopath.
     
  5. thinkitout

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    "Fantasy-based political propaganda" is not used exclusively by leftists.
     
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    . . . . Others of like character who would EXPEDITE achievement of those goals, but not necessarily in the conventional manner.
     
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    Yeah, weird about that. G.W. Bush crawled out of office with his polling numbers in the gutter and now in comparison to Barack Obama more people than not are saying, "He wasn't so bad after all."
     
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    Donald Trump is unfit and unqualified for the task.

    He has no experience at leadership in any kind of group setting. He does not know how to do business with people who won't be beholden to him. He thinks his one on one style, where he plays games, prevaricates and lies, is the way to do business.

    Legislatures don't work that way, and Trump will find himself up against Congress almost immediately.

    I can see the Twitter rants already.

    They will be useless. Of course when Vladimir Putin punks him (which he will do right away), Trump's twitter rants will be equally useless.

    Trump thinks life is a TV show,

    As for Obama being a "my way or the highway" president, the observer conveniently forgot that it was Mitch McConnell that pledged to put the GOP over the nation's interest by obstructing the president at every turn.

    In spit of that,. Obama managed to get much of his legislative agenda enacted, not by being intransigent, but by sitting back and watching the GOP tear itself apart.
     
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    no way, democrats would never do such a thing, theyd compromise for the good of the country....

    right?
     
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    Yes it does.

    The stimulus was nothing more than democrats handing out American tax payer dollars to political donors.

    Cause there were no shovel ready jobs like obama promised.

    kinda like how you couldnt keep your doctor like obama promised.

    kinda like you couldnt keep your health care plan like obama promised.



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    lol, you know exactly what im talking about

    obama and pals promised a summer of recovery 7 freakn years ago

    [video=youtube;s2MjQ17kDng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MjQ17kDng[/video]
     
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    IMHO

    I believe Trump has no plans to work with Congress at all...............but to send them home for an extended vacation.........

    "Don't worry guys........I got this." says he..........

    And I really believe this is a SLAM-DUNK POSSIBILITY
     
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    If one truly believes that either candidate would be a disaster for the United States then refusing to vote is the only ethical choice. That is why there need to be a " None of The Above" vote on the ballot.
     
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    And America has recovered from Bush! Promise achieved, despite no help from the Republicans.
     
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    Ryan and McConnell would control the agenda if Trump won.


    Given his Unfavorables are so high, he could never use the "bully pulpit" to rally the American people to support him against Congress. Plus even most of his support on the Right is just hatred of Hillary Clinton.....Trump can't govern on Hillary Hate.
     
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    Bet you can't find many past employees or past business partners that would say working for Trump was great. Those who are currently employes have no choice if they want to keep their jobs. His record of screwing his investors and business partners, and of course contractors, is practically legendary.
     
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    Should Trump get elected it will probably be both the Republicans and the Democrats that oppose his policies. Just the Democrats opposing his economic proposals to make the rich richer and the Republicans opposing his social proposals to make America more tolerant of diversity.
     
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    Myth: The Republican hierarchy did not talk about a blanket opposition until 2010, after Obama had refused to work with them (and they took over the House), and repeatedly told them "I won." Obama barely wanted to work with the dems in Congress.
     
  21. thinkitout

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    If these two links don't satisfy you, I encourage you to research it for yourself.
    http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...d2a13e249eb2_blog.html?utm_term=.b2b3ddc106bf
     
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    So . . . You are advocating eliminating the station of the Presidency????
     
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    lol 7 years later.

    In fact, America would have recovered from hillary donors looting the stock market faster if obama did nothing at all.
     
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    I repeat, "Fantasy-based political propaganda" is not used exclusively by leftists. If comparing Bush to Trump, maybe that's true.
     
  25. CourtJester

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    Well if none of the above actually won you could require new candidates from all parties or realize that the entire election process is a failure and redesign that.
     

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