Zimmerman Bond hearing Results Part II

On the contrary, George's broken nose proves that he was attacked at one point of the altercation, which opens the door wide open for his self-defense claim. In fact, ANY injury on George's person as a result of Martin's actions pivots the case entirely in George's favor since the final verdict depends on whether or not George acted in self-defense, which is the entire crux of George's defense in this case. The broken nose is the most dammnable evidence against Trayvon Martin, because it proved that he attacked George. It doesn't even matter at that point who attacked who first, because nobody alive saw it happen except for George Zimmerman.

 

A broken nose proves GZ was in a fight, presumably with TM. But it does not prove who started the fight or the reasons for a fight. And it doesn't open the door if it is proven that GZ followed TM, initiated contact with TM, and escalated the entire event based on GZ's false assumptions toward TM. If that is proven, self defense is null and voil because then you cannot establish rasonable fear under florida law.

 

But considering it is clear Trayvon was the aggressor you have nothing but pipe dreams....

 

I have never claimed to be an expert, however, what I said about grand juries is correct. there are reasons why the DA uses the grand jury to indict, but it is not a requirement for all felony cases.

 

there is no evidence that TM was aggressive toward GZ. That may be your assumption, but there is no evidence.

 

It is obvious you are not an expert so why do you post as if you are?

 

Sure there is evidence Trayvon was the aggressor. You just chose to ignore facts...

 

There is very little direct evidence in this case. All the evidence is circumstantial that can go either way depending on how the case is presented by either sied. There is not direct evidence that TM is the aggressor. You got that idea from consevative blogs who made that assertion. Having a bloody nose does not indicate who is and who is not the aggressor. That is something you presume, and it is something that is not clear to even GZ himself. He has never said TM was the aggressor.

My only problem with you is that you state your opinion as fact. Nothing more, nothing less. Good day to you.

 

In any debate, I am giving my opinion, my knowledge, my experience. Nothing more, nothing less. You read into my posts what you want to read, but your attempts at attacking me personally shows you truly have no argument other than your assumptions.

 

There is plenty of "direct evidence" that shows Trayvon was the aggressor. Unless you are referring to only evidence you accept while ignoring the rest.

 

LOL! Personal attack? That is laughable. I merely pointed out how you post false info and refuse to back it up. If you are that sensitive maybe you should shield yourself from the world.

 

Nothing left but being obtuse now I see. I have and have no obligation to post your words again. Your statement is totally specious.

 

One last time, NO. I was addressing his specific statement about ANY 158lb teenager and ANY adult male. That simply because Martin was a 158 lb teenager and Zimmerman was an adult makes Zimmerman a scumbag because ANY adult that shoots ANY 17 year old in a fight is a scumbag.

It is a specious statement.

 

In other words you can't post them, because I didn't say them. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

For a capital murder indictment you do, for M2 it is most common. The DA sidestepped the grand jury and presenting the evidence to a board of citizens to decide if charges should be brought. To me a sign she is not so sure of her case. If she can't get an indictment from a grand jury.............

 

Caught in your own lies

"If a grown man can't handle a 158lb teenager who has nothing but his bare hands and he shoots him, yes he is a scumbag."

 

The new evidence release is out. Not much in the news because there is not much negative crap about GZ. There is a crime scene drawing that shows the position and distance of everything at the crime scene. The body was about 30ft from the "T" in the sidewalk where the struggle began and Trayvon's cell phone was found further than that down the path. If it had fallen like DeeDee claims, at the beginning of the struggle, it would have been closer to where the struggle started. So, Dee is lying.

 

FBI says it found no evidence Zimmerman is/was a racist.

 

Ex girlfriend: Z is not racially biased, doesn’t use racial epithets, and is unlikely to get into physical confrontations. 143 & 144 of 284

Interesting stuff-

 

So, this investigator Serino, who has been (*)(*)(*)(*)ted on on this forum for not being trustworthy, or, being out to get Zimmerman, or whatever, we're gonna accept what he said to the FBI as true now, right?

I mean, I haven't seen any evidence that points out conclusively that GZ was racist, or, that the shooting was racially motivated, so the conclusion of this report seems logical...

However, I'm interested to see how well Serino's words are accepted among the crowd that had no trust in him before...

 

What does Serino have to do with the FBI saying they found no evidence Zimmerman is/was a racist?

What on earth are you talking about? They interviewed LOTS of people.

"Federal agents interviewed many of the neighbourhood watch leader's friends, colleagues and family members as part of their civil rights investigation into the 26 February shooting but found nobody who believed Zimmerman, 28, was motivated by racial bias."

 

Read the article?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

And they put Serino on the streets after he admitted he didn't think this was racially motivated? Bubba Crump is probably in bad shape today.

 

By all accounts, his move was voluntary...

In fact, he said that himself, did he not?

Or are we picking & choosing what we believe from him?

 

Actually, the news he was kicked down to 3rd shift loser came from the Dept so lets not act like the loser issued any statement. I saw that loser asking George if he was "King of the Homeless" and then asked him if he had a problem with black people knowing George had already tried to help a homeless black guy one of the Depts finests son kicked the F out of, but hey whatever. I hope hes safe on those streets, truly.