Sharia Has No Place in America

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  1. Dusty Rhodes

    Dusty Rhodes Banned

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    Patriots in the USA are taking a stand against Sharia Law. Nothing more.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Please cite the specific legislation that has been proposed.

    Any law that violates the protections of the US Constitution is invalid (or would be declared invalid) by the US Supreme Court upon review. Of a greater concern for me are the Christian laws that deny equal protection to same-sex couples that violate the 14th Amendments equal protection clause but those are soon to be ruled unconstitutional just like the laws that prohibited interracial marriage (which were also founded in "Christian" religious beliefs).

    I find it somewhat ironic when someone states that lawsuits based upon the violation of our Constitutionally protected Rights are somehow undermining our liberty. All laws that violate our Constitutionally protected Rights should be addressed by lawsuits and the ACLU is the foremost legal entity dedicated to protecting our Constitutional Rights. So-called Conservatives like to condemn the ACLU but they don't have any legal entity dedicated to protecting our Constitutional Rights to my knowledge. Every American should be supporting the efforts of the ACLU because it is about ensuring that our Constitutional Rights are protected but many of the "Christian Right" openly condemn the ACLU because they're not interested in protecting our Constitutional Right but instead are interested in violating them.

    BTW I was recently reviewing the large private donations for both the Obama and Romney campaigns and I didn't recognize a single Muslim among them. While I wasn't focusing on that specifically I knew many of the names and they were all wealthy white "Christians" such as Bill Maher, Bill Gates and Neil Bluhm. If there were "Muslims" donating then I didn't notice any.

    Of note the biggest problem I've read of was the open endorsement of political candidates by Christian church leaders in violation of the law. These endorsements violate the IRS provisions that afford special tax status to religious institutions.
     
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    Why?

    Is Obama proposing it?
     
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    Its (*)(*)(*)(*) funny you are dodging the article i link that documents your heroes lies. Your quiz is only for the retarded.
     
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    You mention Christian laws that deny equal protection to same-sex couples. Does Islamist Sharia Law also deny equal protection to same-sex couples?
     
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    YOU mentioned millions by one group i mentioned another. Its a topic YOU started. You cant silence me man. Now call me a "Muslim" like a little child and run back to your kook sites.
     
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    Straw man.
     
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    What "Sharia" laws are being proposed?
     
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    Well, lets see how the Supreme court addresses these gay marriage cases, creating rights in response to animus they perceive to be directed towards homosexuals. I could see the same principle appled to muslims in the US. Creating special rights for muslims based upon the animus they perceive to be directed towards muslims. Animus not experienced by other religions.
     
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    Oh, cut the crap. You know as well as I do that Sharia Law has support in the USA. Play your game with some naive college kid.
     
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    Do you have any idea how bills are passed in this country?
     
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    I'm curious myself.
     
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    How?

    If he was, then you may have a point.

    He isn't, no one is, so what IS your point?
     
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    The magic Muslims are going to sneak in and change all our laws in our sleep... Dont turn off your lights!
     
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    Someone needs to inform them they'll also need to amend our Constitution. Going to be difficult getting two-thirds of the states to agree on Sharia Law.
     
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    Try reading the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution:

    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment04/

    Where is the search warrant and what probably cause is it based upon when the federal government searches me at the airport? If I refuse the search then they violate my right of liberty to travel wherever I choose to go.

    This, of course, isn't directly related to Islamic law but we can uncategorically state that the violations of the US Constitution by our government after the 9/11 attacks was without precedent in American history. Former President Bush, sometimes with the consent of Congress, openly violated the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution and each of those violations can be readily documented. President Obama as continued many of those violations so it isn't a "one party" issue but instead a steady and persistant invasion upon our Constitutionally protected Rights.

    What an ignorant statement. The purpose of the government in the United States, as expressed in the Declaration of Independence (and quoted in my signature) is to protect our inalienable Rights, not violate them.
     
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    It would require 3/4ths of the States but that is correct because it ain't gonna happen, period.
     
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    You are right:

    The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.

    http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html
     
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    Why would any of us care what an Egyptian is calling for at the United Nations?

    The U.S. Constitution protects us both from Sharia laws and protects us from bigots who would disriminate against people based upon their religion.
     
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    so you can't find any examples of Sharia law being proposed?
     
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    So?

    Does that mean we should not worry about MUSLIMS anyway?

    Why does a total absence of facts and evidence have to do with it?
     
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    So your position is that the United States should invade Iran?

    Because Iran is not 'reformed' and 'doing good'?

    But non-Muslim dictators can't be evil apparently?

    I think the religious zealots who rule Iran are evil people.....as are the communists who rule North Korea and as are most of the remaining dictators of the world- for instance the ruler of Belarus.

    I think that Moamar Qhaddafy was an evil man. And now he is dead and out of office. I think that Osama Bin Ladin was an evil man- he is dead now too.

    Both without us having to invade anyone.

    So why do you only care about Islamist thugs- but dont' care about any other thugs?
     
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    Are you also taking a stand against Slavery? Are you taking a stand against China invading us?

    What other non-issues are you 'Patriots" brooding about?
     
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    I am SHAKING WITH RAGE over a possible Martian invasion...
     
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