The traitor Snowden:

Well, I know a lot of Americans that are considering their options. The majority, though, are under the false impression that there is a difference between the two corporate parties, so I suspect that another corporate puppet with a different face is in our immediate future. There is a bit of a movement to repatriate back to the individual state's and push for a new constitutional convention to re-shape the Federal government. There are others that aren't sold on that being an effective idea and are more interested in pushing for wide spread abstention from the electoral process in order to delegitimize the government and push for change that way.

The good news is that more and more people are starting to see that real change is needed. That was evidenced by the original, organic manifestations of the Tea Party and Occupy movements. Sure, they were both hijacked by the system once they became big enough to make some waves, but they started out as legitimate popular movements, which is indicative that there is widespread dissatisfaction with the system and those in positions of power.

Alas, it has not yet been enough to even get them to stop widespread spying on us in an attempt, no doubt, to determine the leaders among the disdained masses.

 

How about a general strike ? What happened to the tool of striking fear into the hearts of evil overlords by refusing to earn for them ?

 

It can't be real times of war sufficient to necessitate the propriety of war powers, if our federal Congress cannot justify war time tax rates.

 

Americans need to understand only one thing that Snowden did a good thing. Very bad if a person is telling the truth for what it wants to punish him. It is immoral.

 

A general strike only works when people are working to begin with...

 

Do you think that really is a legitimate dis-qualifier as far as the powers that be are concerned? Taxes aren't collected to fund government, government spending is there to transfer taxes from the serfs to the corporate coffers. Big business doesn't care about raising taxes, they are the direct beneficiary of expanded government spending in any event.

 

The American system is fascist in nature. That reality is not presented to the people in that way, so when they see government crying that someone's actions is bad for the government, they mistakenly believe that means it is bad for them. They (the American people) have been duped into believing that the government is of, by, and for them. Of course, it has ceased to be that way for a very long time.

 

I am not sure what you mean, our federal Congress is only delegated the social Power to Tax, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; not any Thing and every Thing, as the right would have us believe.

 

Now I think that Snowden is well settled in Russia. Russian view him as someone who fights for freedom. And I think the owner of any company in Russia will be happy that he is working Snowden.

 

First and foremost, let's get one thing straight. The ides that there is a "right" and a "left" is a lie perpetrated to divide and conquer. Both parties, the "right, conservative, Republicans" and the "left, liberal, Democrats", both represent the corporate oligarchy that finances their campaigns and supports a big government for big business paradigm while dividing the populace over meaningless issues that are designed to veil the ultimate goal of big government for big business monopoly capitalism/corporate socialism or more simply, fascism.

Regardless of the power of the purse delegated to Congress, which is utterly irrelevant to the topic of this thread, Snowden exposed the US government for being willfully negligent in it's discipline to follow it's own laws. This, alone, is enough to delegitimize any government as how can a people be expected to follow a legal system in which the government that exists to preserve and protect such a system is shown to be willfully content to disregard such rules?

 

News Flash: the powers that be in Russia, China, etc., etc., are very much tied to the same ruling class that controls the US. If Snowden is in fact in any of these countries, including if he was ever actually in China to begin with, that actually damages the credibility of this whole story. Snowden probably wasn't in China at all and never went to Russia, either. That was likely a propaganda play to use a "bad" situation to promote valuable untruths.

 

Wow, and I thought that I was into deep conspiracy stuff regarding Egypt and the US secret police agencies.

 

"Conspiracy stuff", eh? So, tell me what you believe about the connection between the happenings in Egypt and the "US secret police agencies". I don't disagree that there is a connection, there. I am quite curious to hear your take on it.

As far as the connections between the US and the Soviet Union, I suggest Antony Sutton's works, particularly "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution". The world is far more interconnected than we are lead to believe.

 

With the amount of aid money and military involved, I just don't think that the Egyptian generals can take a leak without permission from CENTCOM. No evidence, just an opinion.

 

Do you disagree that there are "right wings" and "left wings" of ideological thought regarding our republican form of government, regardless of our current form of capitalism?

It must be relevant if the power of the purse is used since it is delegated by the People.

If our federal Congress cannot justify wartime tax rates, there is no basis to delegate any war powers.

 

Seems to me that all this guy did was tell his fellow Americans that the NSA was tapping our phones, our cells, our Google searches, our text messages etc. He let us know the NSA was doing all kinds of illegal crap. This guy is a hero, not a goat. The people we should be hunting down and hanging from tall oak trees are those scum sucking employees of the NSA. Have we all forgotten we have rights and that USA is not USSR?

 

Why can we afford a warfare-State if our federal Congress cannot justify warfare-State tax rates?

 

I think what Snowden has done is good in a way except for one thing, I haven't seen any evidence of Snowden in the Moscow airport or anywhere for that matter?? Only video you see is the one that he has portrayed himself explaining his actions. I get quite skeptical when mainstream media gets heavily involved in a situation. I watched various youtube clips saying he arrived in Moscow and tons of reporters are waiting for him, but nothing? There's something else going on and I guess we will have to wait to see the events unfold itself.

 

"The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government."

Franklin D. Roosevelt

 

That's a reasonable opinion. I don't have any reason to disagree with it. Of course, that could be partly why the military is backing the latest revolt...at some point, on a local level, money becomes less important than the living conditions of one's friends, family, community, etc.

 

No, there are not left wing and right wing ideologies of thought. It's a lie. That is why both parties tend to hold hypocritical positions of their assigned "ideologies". Here's the game: The "right wing" Republican party supposedly supports limited government in favor of big business. The "left wing" supposedly supports expanded government under the auspices that we need government to protect us from big business. So, at the base of the supposed ideological divide is this notion that there are two entities, big business and big government, and that most people are driven to support one or the other as a means of establishing balance. The reality, however, is that big business controls big government through financial domination of the electoral and legislative. Government is thus a tool of big business and therefore the fraud of an ideological divide of those opposing big government and those supporting big government is just a rouse played upon the American people to ensure a situation where the governing apparatus is always pushing the big government for big business agenda.

Monopoly capitalism isn't really a form of capitalism. It's just an accurate way to describe our current economy.

If it were delegated by the people, the people could take it away. They clearly cannot, especially when a government refuses to play by it's own rules, harasses and imprisons people that expose it's unlawful and immoral activities, and even seeks legal framework for assassinating citizens without due process.

Who does the Congress have to justify wartime tax rates to?

The legal framework is already there to get around these "minor technicalities". This is the end result of centralized government. It's fascism. That is where big, centralized government with a monopoly on violent force leads.

 

We have lost the balance FDR was speaking of...though he was very instrumental in expanding the power of the government which ultimately removed the strength of the people to maintain sovereign control thereof.

 

These authoritarian regimes are jumping at the opportunity to publicly attack the US. Snowden provided them with this opportunity. No person has every done as much to ruin the international reputation of the US than Edward Snowden.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), pure and utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*). All Snowden did was expose the truth. There is ZERO evidence that he provided ANY information to ANY country. The information he did provide, to a UK journalist, exposed the US government of a gross misuse of power and a violation of it's own legal processes.

Do you condone the actions of the US government that were exposed, here? The US government's actions are what has been systematically ruining the US's international reputation.

 

Among other things, Snowden said that the US was spying on the EU and Hong Kong universities.

Anyone who thinks that Snowden is really just concerned about the privacy of Americans is deluded. Snowden is an attention seeker who is willing to throw his own country under the buss to get it.

And yes, I condone crime prevention.