What can Team Hillary do to excite the youth and black vote in 2016?

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  1. Dollface

    Dollface New Member

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    She really does not have to do a whole lot just let Republicans run their mouths, that pretty much will take care of that voter block.
     
  2. Shanty

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    Your poor analysis of how Obama won in 2008 for the nomination, coupled with your American bashing, is really making this uninteresting.

    But, I think a quick and short answer is that if blacks and youth want to have a future of jobs instead of poverty, they'd be smart to vote for the Democratic nominee.
     
  3. After Hours

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    Statistics and historical trends show blacks almost always back the liberal candidates, regardless of skin color.

    If anyone votes strictly on race, it's white southerners who are almost always conservative.
     
  4. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    then you know little of messaging and marketing

    it has nothing to do with jobs unless of course you are promising taxpayer funded largesse. It will be difficult at best to get people who tend to stay at home to head out and vote. It won't be a big social event like it was in 2008. So again, how do YOU suggest that team Hillary and the Democrat party gets those people off their duffs and out to vote?

    The only way that I see it is for absentee ballots, bring them to the people's homes and have them vote Democrat while they wait and then collect the ballots.

    That will require the mobilization of a lot of SEIU members and paid workers.
     
  5. PatrickT

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    Nice parroting, Natty. You and your sock puppet have a nice dialogue going.

    Liberals and socialists do vote their self-interest. That's all they care about. What's in it for me.
     
  6. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The "liberals and socialists" that fester in your noggin don't get to vote, but all real Americans that do are guided by perceived self-interest.

    If Republicans could appeal to centrists instead of pandering to extremists, they would have a realistic chance of winning a national election.

    There may have been more "blue" states than "red" states in 2013, but a clear majority of Americans are ideologically at the center or right of center. How do Democrats continue to win elections if so few Americans identify themselves as liberal? The answer may lie with moderates, which, as a voting bloc, are solidly Democratic. If moderates begin voting with Republicans in the near or long-term future, there may indeed be a Republican revival on the national level.​
     
  7. Phoebe Bump

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    Although I'd vote for her before any of the Republicans I've seen to date, I agree. Not a lot of sizzle. Still, there's the Maggie Thatcher tough old bat angle that would appeal to a lot of people.
     
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    Why would anybody in their right mind vote against their own self-interests? Why, for example, would I vote more tax breaks for the wealthy, thereby increasing my own tax liability?
     
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    Good enough for me, by golly.
     
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    Rapping and twerking?
     
  11. Durandal

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    Marketing = manipulation and lies. I have some hope that today's youth are beyond such manipulation. They grow up immersed in it, so they should be somewhat immune to it.

    And there you are, asking how the Hilarity team can trick these people into supporting that psychopathic monster of a woman in spite of this..
     
  12. SFJEFF

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    But you know that the Far Right prefers to tell themselves the story that Sec crafts.
     
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    Warren probably has as much name recognition as Obie had 2.5 years before the election. But the Republicans are going to commit ritual suicide again so it doesn't really matter who the Dems nominate.
     
  14. Shanty

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    I know quite a bit about it. Looking at the past ten Presidential elections, the Republican nominees don't bring forth any new ideas. They regurgitate the same stuff, that when put into practice does nothing to fix problems or see progress for the US.

    Most jobs created are not Federal government jobs. The thing here is to highlight the differences between the Democratic nominee, and the prospects of a better economy, and the failures of conservative economic policies that the GOP have brought to being. Minorities, women, and all working people and the poor want to see more opportunities. The Republicans are still obstructing those opportunities. Make it a populist message about the economy, and that will be the ticket to knocking the GOP nominee off from the White House.

    Absentee ballots don't make up a huge portion of any election. It's always more cost effective to go to the base and get them to come out and vote. You don't know much about elections.
     
  15. sec

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    if you knew of messaging then you would know how important was the hype and the race card in 2008. The Democrat party does not have that this time around. Yes, they have name recognition in Clinton but, the apathetic voter who helped elect Obama will again stay home. A close race mans the GOP wins. So, how does the Democrat party get those who came out in droves to vote for the black guy to come out and vote for the old white lady?

    There needs to be more than spinning lies about conservative policies. It's marketing and I'm not sure what message can be wrapped around Hillary.

    And, to push anyone beside Hillary means defeat. The Democrat party has 1 horse for the race and had best figure out how to get the uninformed and apathetic to the polls
     
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    the Obama camp played it down, actually. Fox News used it to try to rally the racists.

    it wasn't a factor in 2008. Even without the higher numbers of blacks voting, Obama would have won handily against McCain. All of that dog whistling that Fox News did to the racist right failed.

    Just like the Democrats won the last two times. Stay on message and let the right wing nuts tell us what their grim view of America entails.

    there's no need to lie about the myopic views of conservatives. Mitt Romney was your best shot, and he talked openly about his views, and Americans rejected it because they see that giving billionaires more welfare is a failed idea.

    There's plenty of Democrats who can win in a general election. Hillary Clinton would be formidable, but others, like Martin O'Malley, Brian Schweitzer, Tim Kaine, Mark Warner, Deval Patrick and others. The problem isn't just race for the wing nuts. It's also that the right has painted themselves into the corner of extremism and eternal myopia.
     
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    Drop out.
     
  18. sec

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    would you like to update your opinion of the vast Democrat field?
     
  19. APACHERAT

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    Promise more free stuff.

    It worked for the community organizer, twice.

    But most blacks are still waiting for their Obama money and the illegal alien voters are still waiting for their amnesty.

    It all was just a lie.
     
  20. Gatewood

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    The amusing thing is that it never seems to bother leftist voters when their own politicians lie to them.
     
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    At this point, what difference does it make ?
     
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    One thing someone could do is to somehow figure out how to get Hillary Clinton to speak without sounding either ear splittingly shrill or the female voice in my GPS. Either she screams or sounds like a programmed robot.
     
  23. Natty Bumpo

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    Point to the alternative if the GOP ever come up with one.

    The choice is extremely limited and "Who will be the '16 model Willard?' is an essential question they seem loathed to answer.

    Instead, the chronic bellywhingers fixate upon and bellywhinge about Mrs. C.
     
  24. Gatewood

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    It's all her early on training as an old-fashioned feminist. That's how they spoke back in the day.

    No doubt Bill tried telling her, "No honey-bunch, not like an angry screamer or a boring old foghorn. You have to romance an audience and pull them in with your sexy voice like that good lookin' homewrecker Sarah Palin does it. Ummmm . . . Sarah . . . I'd like to be a rutting elk in her political gun site."
     
  25. Natty Bumpo

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    Take elocution lessons from the dulcet Lady SaPa?

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