What can Team Hillary do to excite the youth and black vote in 2016?

In my opinion, and by all accounts, Hillary will not even run in 2016.

She's too old,
she is no longer attractive,
she polls poorly with women,
she polls poorly with blacks,
she reeks of 'old guard Washington DC politics',
and quite frankly, even the young Democrat voters have had just about enough of business as usual in Washington DC.

The Democrat Party will kick her to the curb, as they did in 2008, and they will ferret-out a much younger, more attractive 'rock star' candidate.

They will never re-capture that cult of personality magic that Barack Obama managed to generate, but there is no doubt at all that Hillary is not the one for 2016.

I'm not bashing HIllary, I am just speaking some simple truths.
This is the age of celebrity worship and vapid attraction to physical beauty and zero-subtance.

Whichever Party manages to capture the White House in 2016 will do so by running a young, sexy, attractive man or woman.
Mark my words.

And the old girl just doesn't have what it takes anymore.

 

So you really believe that 95% of African Americans voted for Obama and race wasn't the determining factor.

 

The only way Hillary will excite the base is if she doesn't run.

 

It would not be just because she is a woman...Being a woman is secondary to keeping any Republican out of the White House. If a woman gets that job...so be it.

I would have voted for McCain...but he being forced to nominate that idiot proved he had no balls.

 

So, do you really insist that race was the determining factor when 91% of Black Americans voted for Walter Mondale in 1984? How so?

I'd say that the numbers over the past three decades confirm that Black Americans overwhelmingly prefer Democratic candidates, regardless of your racial fixation.

 

No, but I do believe this is the problem.

http://statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

 

70% of the whites wouldn't vote for that milk-toast weasel.

 

you make some good points. Yes, the black vote does go Democrat but the turnout will be lacking compared to what it was for Obama.

The youth vote won't be there not because they are disillusioned, but because they've already done the voting thing and they've got Instagram to do.

As for Independent voters; IMO, that is the biggest crock of ship. You either personally lean as being the kind who believes in personal responsibility or you lean left. The whole garbage of "undecided voters" in 2012 was hysterical. Seriously, you didn't know the difference between Obama or Romney?

So, Hillary is left with a lower black and youth turnout. Do you think the base which depends on tax dollars will be enough to get here elected?

What marketing campaign do you think would work?

If they choose to distance themselves from Obama then they'd best do it pretty soon.

 

the person best suited for the job should get it. We should know by now that Affirmative Action does not work, be it race or gender. Problem here is that too many people vote along party lines, rather than putting the best person in the job.

 

Yes. that's why they're electing her. Because she's a woman. Not because she served two terms as a senator. Not because she was secretary of state. Not because of the fact that she's married to a president many regard as one of the best of the post WW2 era. Not because she's been a leader on health care issues and womens rights issues.

Everyone who would vote for Hillary is surely doing it only because she's a woman.

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In fact blacks have been voting for democrats in the 80th percentile ever since all the dixie democrats switched to the republican side after the civil rights act was spear headed by a democrat president.

 

Actually, he didn't make good points.

For one, that Harvard poll him and other low information right wingers trot out every so often shows us that while some of the youth regretted voting for Obama, more of them still would vote for Obama over Romney if the election were being held today. And in that same poll, the poster you responded to always conveniently leaves out the fact that those who regretted voting for Obama would have voted third party, if the election were being held today. Which means they still thought Romney and the GOP were both bloody awful. So I wouldn't count on the youth voting GOP in 2016, with the possible exception of the white youth vote.

As for blacks, they have sat back with everyone else and watched the biggest collective brain fart in history happen all because a half black guy was elected. Ever since he was elected, we have witnessed a massive obsession with any black on white crime, and of course blacks being referred to as "Obama voters", "Obama's sons", "low information voters", etc. And of course if the GOP is stupid enough to have a Jessie helms supporting moron like Ted Cruz running in 2016, don't be surprised if the black turn out rate is even higher than it was in 2012.

of course, this is not taking into account those Asian voters, who have been leaving the GOP in droves. Hell, it has gotten so bad for the GOP with minorities, that even the traditional Cuban voting bloc is starting to leave the party.

It's probably best if you cons stop worrying about how much of the black vote goes to the dems, and worry about pandering to your nearly all white constituency. I realize it's hard for you guys to win elections solely on the white vote any more, but hell, you made your own bed when you thought it was smart to pander to the loser George Wallace voters in the south.

 

Your're mewling about a 1984 presidential candidate instead of honestly addressing why you need to pretend that 93% of Black Americans voting for a Democratic presidential candidate in 2012 was racist, when 91% doing so in 1984 was not.

Black Americans consistently preferring the Democratic candidates election after election negates your racial fixation.

 

Good review of where she's been. As usual it lacks any record of what she's accomplished, which is ZERO. She did nothing in the senate. Her husband was/is a dog and a rapist. She has nothing to show for being Sec. Of State. Unless of course you include participating in the coverup of the murder of a US ambassador and three aids. Not really a record of distinction.

 

Imagine. If only a Black woman had run against any of those previous 42 white guys, she would have been a shoe-in, so powerful is the compulsion to be thusly guided by race and gender!

 

I think that she and Bill are going to rely on the principle of "You can fool most of the people most of the time IF the bulk of the Mainstream media is cheer leading for you" to put them over the top in 2016, and aside from that they intend to rely on Bill Clinton's Great Communicator's mouth and on -- really problematic -- Hillary not making too many political gaffs during her campaign. But that will not be enough to overcome the psychological miasma wafting through the nation from eight years of Obama acting like a clueless Clown Prince as president.

So I think that while never repudiating her own liberal credentials of course, Hillary will try to present herself as functionally non liberal as possible from an ideologically limp-wristed perspective (which IS the liberal reputation in general, after all) and instead talk herself up instead as a rather gruff seeming tough as nails Margaret Thatcher type of hard-nosed leader type with -- to keep liberals loyal to her -- a heart of gold who openly FEEEEEEEEEEEELS the pain of the downtrodden classes (anyone on welfare, that is).

She will in other words shoot for creating a false liberal version of the Compassionate Conservative image around a 'safely' liberal core and also she and Bill will go over the top emphasizing both her 'experience' and her 'competence'. In that last aspect they will be emphasizing without coming right out and saying it, that Hillary IS NOT Barack Obama; that she actually does know what the hell she is doing and that she's innately tough enough to play with the big boys at home and abroad. In other words, intimate that not only is Barack Obama wimpy and incompetent and clueless but that she is anything but those things.

But rather than promise the nation the moon and the stars if elected she -- unlike Obama -- will only intimate that she CAN come closer than anyone else in delivering . . . if elected. So there will be very few specifics to her presidential campaign -- if she runs -- but lots and lots of psychological-based campaigning to definitively separate her from the Dem Party's Failure-in-Chief and from the lunatic (as painted by herself and the bulk of the MSM) Republican running against her.

Mostly her campaign will consist of telling the nation, "See? I told you that you should have elected me back in 2008, and had you done so none of the nightmare crud that stunk up the Obama administration years ever would have occurred." But do so without ever coming right out and stating it.

 

What can Team Hillary do to excite the youth and black vote in 2016?

It is likely they will not need to do anything, as the GOP is doing it for them.

If a population is motivated to oppose a candidate...the alternate will be an obvious choice.

 

Oh yeah I completely know what you mean. That's why blacks have had an incredibly easy time getting into congress and the white house in the past. Is there any life easier than a black woman's life?

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Pretty much this. Hillary is guaranteed to get 80% of the black vote just because of the D next to her name. And she can probably do very well with them if she gets Obama to campaign at her side.

 

Ive no doubt that the Democrat candidate will get the black vote. The issue is the tun out of the black voters will be very low this time unless they can craft some message to get them out of the house, drive on down to the voting booth, wait in line and vote for the old white lady

They face the same problem with the youth vote

 

Anyone that comes out of the primaries with a D on their name will definitely be putting Obama on the campaign trail in urban centers.

 

Depending on whichever candidate the GOP puts up, they may not even need Obama. For example, if Ted Cruz is the candidate, all the dems have to do is mention how much of a fan of Jessie Helms he is (guarantee most blacks know who Helms is), and it wouldn't surprise me if the 2016 dem candidate receives black support similar to what Lyndon B. Johnson received after the civil rights act was passed.

As I said before though, they should be more worried about that Asian and "Hispanic" vote, especially Cubans. You know it's bad for the GOP when Cubans are even starting to leave the party.

 

As you conveniently ignore the NUMBER of blacks that voted in the election as a percent of previous election.

You know Natty, this is the type of cherry picked meandering on this forum that just makes the majority of posts and debates suck.

I love how you post "percent of blacks that voted democrat" while ignoring that the election for Barack Obama's presidency drew the highest number and percent of blacks to the poll EVER.

And you want to sit here and say that race wasn't the factor, or worse play games with cherry picked data.

 

Not to worry the Republican nominee will do it for her.

 

What do you call it when 95+% of black folk vote for a white candidate?

I call it a fail on your false equivalency.....

 

I seriously doubt that.

Hillary polls horribly with blacks, and even worse with educated American women.

What is LIKELY to happen, should she win the Democrat nomination (and I seriously doubt that is going to happen) is that blacks will stay home on election day out of pure apathy.

Here is what is GOING to happen;

The Democrats will drop her in the next few months, and they will shift their attention and their spin-machine onto a younger, more sexy, more competent, more accomplished candidate.

Hillary is yesterday's news, face it.
She is done.
She is old.
She is viewed at part of the 'Washington DC Old Guard'.
She is unattractive to the Democrat base.
Her staggeringly-lousy book roll-out made that abundantly clear.


I really like Hillary, don't get me wrong.
She was once sexy and attractive, and I really wanted to (in 1992 or so) have sex with her.

But those days are long over.
And as my wiener goes (much like a tall mast, or a rudder of strong political opinion) so go the tides of discontent against Hillary Clinton.

Her days are numbered, and she needs to go ahead and retire to a life of book tours and being a really crappy grandmother.