Black actress kissing white boyfriend handcuffed/detained

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  1. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If an armed government bureaucrat stops and asks for your papers, it is best to say "Yes suh!" and provide that identification, and they had best be in order. California does not have a strong stop & identify statute, and that is of no importance to anyone who wants to remain low on the radar of the enforcers for the political class.

    In the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, do not expect much support for taking a stand for liberty. The liberal progressives will tut tut at the treatment one suffers, yet they continue to vote for more laws and more power for leviathan. The "small government" conservatives will cheer on the armed enforcers and also continue to vote for more power by leviathan government to punish every disobedient act.

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    I doubt that he had probable cause. Reasonable suspicion, maybe.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What probable cause?




     
  3. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Yes, you are correct.
     
  4. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Listen to the full audio recording Here.

    Suppose she was there against her will and she said those things because he told her he would kill her family if she alerted the cops? Should the police just go away?
     
  5. MrConservative

    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    The assumption was made by the person who called the police. The cops went their to investigate the alleged crime. The innocent citizen was detained because she refused to show the cop her id. Even if the cops were in the wrong, which they were not, she still could have showed her id. Instead, she decided to make a scene like a petulant child. It looks to me she really wanted to play the poor victim if you ask me.

    To be honest though, this should be a lesson for people not to call cops on every little thing they see they think is wrong. The term "sexual acts" can be pretty vague. If they were just kissing in their car, that is hardly a crime. Just saying, cops should have more important things to do.
     
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  6. RP12

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    The complaint was a sexual act. Hugging and kissing is not a sexual act. The police go by what they are told they didnt "assume" anything.

    There was no "special attention".

    You are making a bigger deal out of this then what it is because you WANT it to be "racism" when it is no such thing.
     
  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may want to think twice about bringing your wife up in a conversation where a couple are engaging in "lewd acts in a car".

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...legation-was-of-lewd-acts-in-car-9734083.html
     
  8. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Acquiesce? Cloak It's more, "why didn't she comply with the law." As party to an ongoing investigation of a citizen complaint the young lady, by law, is required to identify herself if asked.

    Think of the mechanics of the thing. If a complaint of criminal acts are lodged with the police they are compelled by law to investigate, they have little choice. Investigating means taking statements from all involved and memorializing in writing who was involved, this means getting names and assuring that the names given are real.

    If a police officer doesn't get positive ID and a false name is given it can lead to serious problems for the "named" person at a later date.

    Think of the mechanics of the thing. There's really no other way, witnesses, suspects and other parties to the incident must be positively ID'd.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Inappropriately? The police responded to the call, identified the parties to the complaint, interviewed witnesses and suspects, then after the investigation at the scene determined that no crime had been committed.

    Not sure I'm seeing the problem here.

    The woman in question not identifying herself is a separate matter, and even at that when she did comply with THE LAW and provide her name she was released.

    Not sure I'm seeing a problem here.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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  10. Flintc

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    Holy Moly, Batman! A married couple kisses, the cops come running and handcuff the woman! And "the cops were not incorrect in any way"!!! What kind of police state do YOU want to live in?
     
  11. Flintc

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    Maybe if you kissed your wife in public (I see couples doing it at the mall every time I go to the mall), and the cops came running, grabbed you and put you in handcuffs and then and ONLY then checked the facts and found out there was no problem, you'd see a problem here. Seriously, how often do you see the cops grabbing people and handcuffing them for public affection? What do you suppose was different about this particular instance?

    Hint: why would the caller AND the police assume they were watching a prostitute? Do you have any idea? Any at all?
     
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    Exactly. All the Done-ocrats have left, are the Politics of Division and Victimhood.

    Why do you think they NEVER POST A THREAD on actual RELEVANT (to voters) topics
     
  13. Bow To The Robots

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    This is disgraceful. NB: There is no such thing as a 'Studio City policeman.' Studio City is served by LAPD.
     
  14. mikemikev

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    You've been told she was cuffed for refusing to show ID and attempting to walk away here, here and here.

    So the only question now is why you continue to lie about these police officers.
     
  15. Flintc

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    I admit I find this attitude disturbing. There shouldn't have been any call in the first place. But when the police arrived, they could see the call was a false alarm. They didn't need to start handcuffing people and demanding ID. And yet people here seem to think this is just what they should do, and the victims of this false report are to blame because the cops overreacted. I keep hearing "show your papers please. If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear from being handcuffed. If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind being searched." This is scary!

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    Because the call was a false alarm, and this action is not appropriate. You should NOT have to show your papers whenever the cops ask. And the cops should not be demanding to see your papers when called in on a false alarm.

    So the only question now is why you continue to blame the victim in this incident.
     
  16. Flintc

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    I guess you and I don't live in the same world. There is no way anyone would have called the cops if it weren't an inter-racial couple, and no way the cops would have done anything when they got there and saw that it was a false alarm. Both the caller and the cops ASSUMED they were dealing with a prostitute and a trick because they all did habitual racial profiling. If you can't see this, nobody can open your eyes. Conversely, what I'm saying would be stone obvious to any black person reading about it.
     
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    Sadly, your world is a fantasy world where everything is predicated on race. Doesn't racism get boring?
     
  18. Professor Peabody

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    I listened to an radio interview with the Sargent that handled the call. He said when she walked away, he didn't even try to stop her, he called for a female officer to go get her and bring her back.

    "I was trying to ID them and leave – nobody wanted them arrested for having sex in public,” he said. “But then she went into her tirade.”
     
  19. Professor Peabody

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    In your world folks don't call the Police when two people openly have sex in a car with the door open in the middle of the day across the street from a McDonalds?
     
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    Anyone who watched the video or listened to the audio would know that the woman is a ranting fool. The cop was amazingly cool and just wanted to complete the loop on the report as he is required.

    There is no known racism here except by the actress that was identifying people by race and playing the race card.
     
  21. Gatewood

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    I suspect that she and her husband were trolling in the hope that what happened would happen. This way she gets instant nationwide recognition again, automatically boosting an acting career that has obviously hit the skids, and there is even the ACLU/NAACP generated court room possibility of a tidy chunk of change coming in from the city or state. Excellent! Except, alas, the video recording pretty much makes it evident that the police officer was the reasonable one, just trying to do his job and that she was purposefully being an arrogant -- um -- person.
     
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    It was her boyfriend, and the thought they were hoping for a reaction ("No such thing as bad publicity!") has crossed my mind also.
     
  23. Flintc

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    If that was what was actually happening, the cops wouldn't have dismissed the whole incident as soon as they figured out that it was a false alarm.

    THINK about what went down here. Someone in an affluent neighborhood sees a black woman and a white man in a car. Instant conclusion: whore. And what are they doing in that car: Instant assumption: duh, what do whores DO for a living? So this person calls the cops -- can't have whores turning tricks around here! Now, if this were East LA and everyone involved were black, nobody would have bothered calling, because no police would have bothered answering. This is the real world.

    But the cops are Johnny on the spot in richland, and the cops of course jump to the same conclusion: whore. And so FIRST the cops treat this actress as a whore according to their assumption. If the cops assumed you were a whore and started out by demanding your ID, maybe you'd be annoyed as well. Especially if you had done nothing wrong, and you know perfectly well you're being treated that way because of racial profiling.

    So the cops, after jumping to the same false conclusions as the caller and acting on those false conclusions, at least have the sense to start checking it out, and find out that (1) these people are married or at least in a long-term relationship; (2) they weren't having sex or doing anything illegal. Oops, sorry about that, end of incident.

    Which leaves some of us wondering, why did this incident happen in the first place, and why was it handled like it was in the second place. You don't have to be a rocket scientist, or even a liberal, to figure that out.
     
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    We are talking L.A. here. I've had a home in SoCal for a few decades and still do. It's not like that.

    They were getting pretty hot and heavy in their car with the door open exposing it to an office building. One of the bosses came down and said, please take this crap elsewhere. They did not. The office building staff then called the police who told them they had a report, they need to close it, I.D. please. She made an ass of herself as the cop was super cool. She played the race card on the scene and the cop laughed it off.

    We're talking Liberal L.A. here.
     
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    I think people need to watch the show COPS more to see why they do what they do. Watch as episodes after episode, people lie, shriek, complain, yell, scream, before the cops do anything that seems aggressive. Same ol' story. "I didn't do nuttin officer....". You smoking weed right now? No sir. Then why do I smell it all over you? Got any drugs on you? Nope. Then whats this crack pipe in your pocket? You drinking? No sir. Then what's that open bottle on the floor? You been arrested? No sir. Then why do you have a warrant? Same ol' story. The fun ones involve women who start screaming harassment as soon as a cop grabs their arm and act like their arm is broken when they barely touched them. Its such a joke.
     

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