This Kind of Mass Violence Does Not Happen in Other Advanced Countries

I don't hang out with them. I'm not in the habit of dealing with the immature and their conspiracy theories bore the hell out of me.

Nice try, though.

 

Then what are you worried about?

TMI.

Try? I'm just passing a beautiful day, having a nice pleasant conversation about the politics-du-jour. "Guns" aren't an issue for me, I'm not worried about them one way or the other. "Guns" are way down on my list of priorities. Number 4,073 or something like that.

 

How would you know? Non use of guns for self defense are not recorded. I personally know more people that have used a gun to ward off crime than I know of people that have had to shoot one or been shot.

 

Quite frankly I have doubts about that, nonetheless....

Then what you really are is an uninformed second amendment advocate.
Highly uninformed if not naive.
The reason being is that the 2nd Amendment is meant for a much higher calling than personal protection. It is for the protection of Human Rights Period.
Naivety and ignorance breeds bad choices.
There are many who would really like to abolish the 2nd. Your attitude plays nicely into their wishes.
While the loss of life is indeed a tragedy, the price of losing that right would be magnitudes greater.

 

Has there ever been a case the 2nd Amendment was used for this "higher calling" and the main cause of the defense of Americas human rights?

 

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Then surely you know that the united states isn't the only country in the world that has an armed populace. So how do you explain the discrepancy between the former "sick gun fetish" and the latter "traveled quite extensively"?

Your conclusion does not fit your premise, therefore it is inconsistent (i.e. illogical).

 

No, there are many Japanese that own guns. They just have to attend a firearms safety course by the police before getting a license to own a gun. Handguns are illegal, but rifles are legal.

The problem with guns in america isn't a lack of knowledge about gun safety, but rather the illegal use of guns. This guy who shot that church up didn't do that because he didn't know how to safely operate a firearm. And that is what you are saying, which is ridiculous!

 

Someone else who is sadly ignorant of the facts. In fact guns save more lives than they take yearly. there are over 200,000 uses of guns defensively every year. in the overwhelming majority of cases no one gets shot. Most of those uses would end in criminal conduct against the gun owner without the gun being present. In more than a few of those cases the gun owner would have died violently had he or she not had a weapon. Further trying to outlaw weapons because of two crimes a years is retarded in the extreme. And yeah you exchange a very few gun deaths for a big increase in rapes, assaults, home invasions and other kinds of crimes.

 

Isn't it ironic there is not little dots for the mass graves in Mexico where the drug cartels execute scores of people. Or in some African countries where people have a tendency to chop people apart with whatever they can get their hands on.

What happened to those dots?

 

One common, and entirely hyperbolic emotional drivel, argument that arises when discussing the implementation of new firearm restrictions, is that if it saves even just one life, it is worth it.

If we are to accept such drivel as valid, then it must be valid when the exact opposite is presented. If firearms ownership as is saves even just one life, then it is worth it.

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Then why are you present on this discussion board if you are not in the habit of dealing with such individuals?

 

And why is the bible belt that is supposedly all about clinging to guns and bibles so conspicuosly clean?

 

I challenge anyone to create a law that would stop a nutcase like this from doing what they want to do.

 

Because people with the ability to defend themselves don't get f&#@*! with.

 

You do know the military verse on this don't you?

One is my penis
One is my gun
One is for shooting
The other's for fun

 

You drum up the votes for the amendment process and I won't resist. You try that hippie kangaroo court bull(*)(*)(*)(*) they've been pulling for the last century or so and you're gonna get some resistance.

If you have the votes, go through the process. Would you like instructions on the process?

 

Opposing their drivel just creates more of their drivel, but allowing it to go unchallenged let's them get away with their same, tired, old excuses. Also, the tendency of some of the SUPER MACHO types to assume that they are the only ones on earth who have ever pulled a trigger is annoying as well as immature. It never hurts to remind them that someone can be familiar with weapons and still favor gun control.

 

Thank god we are different than all those other countries.

 

This was the 22nd time this year that 3+ people were killed in a shooting. I wonder how many times that has happened in CAnada which is also very diverse and is a country with a lot of guns..

 

Now if only one of those people had had the sense to carry a firearm. Sure I know what you're thinking "IN A CHURCHQ?!?!?!?!?>NQLKSDLFKJSDL:JSD:LFJSFJK" Yes in a church. Not because you expect to use it in the church but because sometimes you have to leave the church and go to the parking lot. And let's be honest: sometimes (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s come into your church and shoot up the place.

Witnesses claim he stopped to reload 5 times. If only one of those poor helpless victims hadn't been helpless by disarming themselves.

 

Well go on then pard. Go through the amendment process. You'll excuse us if we don't hold our breath waiting for you to get the votes, I need air to live man.

 

My goodness. The bodies aren't even cold and Obama is already trying to push a political agenda. South Carolina has some of the strictest gun laws in the Southeast US:

Open carry is out right banned
http://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/map-where-is-open-carry-legal-1715/

A concealed carry is required to carry, at all.
http://www.sled.sc.gov/documents/CWP/CWPLawUpdate.pdf

To get a CC permit you have to have a criminal background check.
http://www.sled.sc.gov/documents/CWP/CWPLawUpdate.pdf

Submit two sets of fingerprints
http://www.sled.sc.gov/documents/CWP/CWPLawUpdate.pdf

Pass a test on gun laws, safe gun usage and live fire test.

South Carolina bans concealed carry in churches
http://www.sled.sc.gov/documents/CWP/CWPLawUpdate.pdf

So we had a mandatory gun free zone and a very sick person who broke the law. Does Obama ever research anything before he starts shooting from the lip?

 

No. I don't want anyone to be killed. (That's kinda the point of this thread).

Nice try.

A neutron bomb. The radiation kills living things but the explosion is very small. No gun can prevent being irradiated to death.

It is a sickness. Some people worship guns and viscerally react at the mere mention of "total confiscation" -- a trigger word that can instantly get them clucking at any NRA or Tea Party rally.

 

I guess that explains how many times Obama has mentioned his home
town of Chicago as being the murder capital of the world.
And doing something about it.Not a peep from Obama.
And Chicago has a Gun ban in effect.
What else ya got.
More ObamaLand drivel.

 

Nothing to do with diversity. American simply has some sort of cultural problem when it comes to mass shootings. Must be all that anxiety.