This Kind of Mass Violence Does Not Happen in Other Advanced Countries

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  1. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    Wow, so uh, by what medical and/or psuchological expertise are you calling people who are enthusiastic about their firearms sick?

    You do know that many of them just go out target shooting and don't even shoot a fly don't you?

    Nah, who cares. We've just gotta go and collectively PUNISH EVERYONE FOR THE SAKE OF THE FEW BECAUSE I'M SCARE OF A PHALLIC SYMBOL! MOMMY HOLD ME!

    On the other, there's the way you can make a holy bartender.
     
  2. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    You can thank Chicago for those numbers. Over 1,000 people have been murdered since the start of the year.

    Canada has a smaller population than Tokyo.
     
  3. blackharvest216

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    yeah i guess you could call it a "cultural problem" but diversity is a part of that cultural problem


    Here michael moore explains

    [video=youtube;lGYFRzf2Xww]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYFRzf2Xww[/video]
     
  4. Zorro

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    The Left is constantly clamoring to control everything, and to control everything, obviously you first need to control guns. But, the government doesn't seem to be doing much of a job with the things they have already been entrusted to control, in fact, they can't even protect the personnel files of Federal employees, so despite their constant demands for more control, I don't think many are in the mood for that right now.

    I also don't see much of an appetite for more gun control laws, but I bet there is deep desire for enforcement of the gun control laws already on the books.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

    The church was by law, a gun free zone. The victims all observed the law, the killer did not.
     
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    We can import some Democrats to Paris and see how safe it becomes.
     
  6. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need to find another word for what you and others on the right call liberals. I am a liberal, the kind that we had for a long time, and these people you call liberals today are not traditional liberals, period, end of story. They are something else entirely, for liberalism has been dead for years. Liberalism was what kept the power of corporations,banksters, who the republicans have represented for my entire life, from devastating working people and the middle class. These people you call liberals today are not liberals, for they do not care one twit about the middle, or working people. They are a whole nuther breed of people, obsessed with gays, transgenders, against Christianity, against a common morality, and basically a destructive force that tears down the social structure of society, and want to pick and choose when it comes to the bill of rights.

    Basically, they are idiots, and they are just like the far right people who are idiots too. We live in a nation of extremes, and that is the problem.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you guys start a race war for the purposes of gun grabbing? That's it? That was the master plan? Obama couldn't handle some out of hand ferguson rioters, Id love to hear how you guys plan on handling millions of well armed people who will defend themselves against freedom grabbers.
     
  8. Goomba

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    When does diversity have to do with high school massacres?
     
  9. Belch

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    No, they don't call themselves liberals. Moderates, and maybe if pressed for a definition, they will call themselves progressives or socialists. But never once have I met somebody from the modern left saying "I am a liberal!"

    30 years ago, and they might have done so, but that was a long long time ago.

    Try and ask one to identify themself now and you'll see what I mean. So I think it's time we stop referring to them as liberals and take libertarianism back from these utopian statists who see the state as the only legitimate power, and that power is to be used to create a utopian society.

    Ever hear one talk about how things are changing and us knuckle dragging troglodytes are going to be left out in the cold? Yes, that's the progressive part. The bit about us being left in their dust is a nod towards their utopian society that they envision. However, since their ability to think beyond bumper sticker sized slogans is severely limited, don't expect much in the way of an intellectual discussion concerning their ideological philosophy. Philosophy is beyond their cognitive abilities.
     
  10. Tram Law

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    NO WAY MAN!

    Ve must make AMERICA exactly like Europe because the constitution makes no sense to us Europeans!
     
  11. ballantine

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    Yes, that will work.

    That is an adequate description of a progressive liberal.
     
  12. fifthofnovember

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    OK, let's think about that for a minute. Either 1) that is a real possibility that we should concern ourselves with, or 2) it is not.

    If it is, then that means the U.S. government would be willing to commit the most unspeakable evil on its own citizens. Failure to resist such evil mass murderers would mean that we submit to them, and that we and our posterity live in Orwellian slavery in perpetuity. As no other country has the might to overcome our military, no one will liberate us. Ever. Life as we know it would be over. And this tyranny would inevitably become worldwide. So, we fight, or the world becomes one not worth living in.

    Or.......it is not a real possibility, and you are just talking out your ass.
     
  13. blackharvest216

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    well it has too do with a culture of fear, if you watch bowling for columbine the film where that clip is from, it goes through alot the common factors that are blamed for violence in america by politicians, everything from loose gun laws to violent video games, and compared them too other countries, and what he believes the main difference between america and the rest of the world is the culture of fear, where raised in, mainly from extended periods of xenophobia, americas story begins with xenophobia, with pilgrims and indians, and ever since then our history has just been overcoming one kind of fear to the next, diversity isn't the problem, its the fear of diversity, the fear the slaves will finally get all the white people back for what they did, or fear that whites are gonna finish off the genocide they started.

    i can't explain the whole movie, but basically its the culture of fear that defines america, not violence violence is just a side effect, and racial fears are just one of those fears, although a probably the biggest one.
     
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    I wish I had said that...wonderful post!

    Through all this I've noticed that if you would like to know the current details about the shooter and his racist, white supremacist, confederate like beliefs, those he obviously acted out in the mass murder, do not bother to tune into a Fox News channel. One should go to CNN or NBC. Even at this guy's young age he carries all the obvious signs of a White man with a hatred for all Black people. A license plate on the front of his Honda displaying the confederate flag. He had three white supremist patches on his jacket.

    It's amazing what a collection of superior, talented Black people that useless bastard was able to kill in that church. I was fascinated when the news summarized the education , background and accomplishments of all the victims.

    So far there has been an obvious absence of the NRA. I guess they're waiting till someone checks the total background of the useless piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) who carried out the mass slayings so they can once again harp endlessly about the antiquated 2nd amendment. Thomas Jefferson said the constitution should be a living document which was reviewed and possibly amended every twenty years. I think it's about time to modernize the musket, cannonball, horseback and saddle riding second amendment.
     
  16. Belch

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    What do you want the NRA to say about this? A bunch of "Our hearts and prayers are with the victims" type platitudes?

    This has nothing to do with the second amendment or guns. Some crazy idiot shot a bunch of people out of irrational hatred. The cops arrested him. End of story.
     
  17. Surfer Joe

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    But that would take courage. People like him and those who excuse his actions are nothing but cowards.
     
  18. garyd

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    I haven't seen anyone yet excuse his actions but then Stormfront isn't anywhere on my to do list.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Above has been said several times. How does anyone know that none were carrying. It is human nature to not want to stand out in a crowd in a dangerous situation. Displaying your gun will make you stand out and you will become the next target. Posting on the internet that "you" would have done this or done that is just brovado. There have been many cases of mass shootings. I cannot remember one case where the murderer was shot by an onlooker; Surely in one of these cases some would have been armed.
     
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    Someone copy and pasted a page from storm front, and yes, some were excusing his actions. - Amazing!
     
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    Not at stormfront it isn't. Those sick disgusting thugs aren't excusing him they're wanting to hang a medal on the murderous twerp. The left's trying to blame Fox News and REpublicans for this but I'd all but guarante that's where the little rat turd got his ridiculous ideas.
     
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    I'll tell you where the little rat turd got his ideas. You might not be surprised to learn that over half of the white people in the south still harbor some of the same ideas.....they just don't act on them.

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  23. garyd

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    Let's see two black and white photos from some where between fifty and a hundred years ago constitutes proof of wide spread racism today uh huh. yeah. Hell the last lynching was nearly 40 years ago.
     
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    This guy was a nut. He didn't get it from FOX. He didn't get it from Republicans. He got it from whatever his whacked personal experiences were and his own messed up brain. Trying to blame this on some sort of collective is insane. Unless they can connect him with a KKK chapter he was a lone POS.

    This isnt like a gang shooting. THAT is a collective social murder. This was a whack job who should be put out of his misery in a week.
     
  25. AlphaOmega

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    Why did you call them black people as opposed to just people?
     

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