Escalation? U.S. Navy Fires Warning Shots At Iranian Ship .....

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    FYI, it's been a number of years since HBO ran a documentary showing how very easy it is to hack the electronic voting machines. That makes your claim that it's damn near impossible damn near unbelievable.
     
  2. Margot2

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    Since 2014 NSA has completely reorganized.. now they can track hackers in real time and most hacking (which is a constant) is coming from Russia, Iran, North Korea and China. So WHO wants to throw the election? Russia? China?
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Wow.
    I just checked on a map, finding the Persian gulf is not very close to New York or anywhere else in the US.
    Does that mean the US navy is the aggressive force?
    Add to the story the minor fact the Iranians fired nothing, and it becomes pretty clear the US navy is the attacking force.

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    If you ignore US cyber attacks against other countries, this is true.
     
  4. truth and justice

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    That's is rubbish. I remember your made up story when you and your gang saw something in a village in Afghanistan that you did not like, so at night you took your men and killed every male person there in revenge. Some may say that you are a dreamer.

    What is it with your sort? Always spoiling for war. The US foreign policy does not change with change of government. Some gullible fools believe Trump isolationism policies and those same people have been calling for Iran to have half of its population killed because they got 'ransom' money (not you yet AA).
     
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    In the case of Iran -the topic we're discussing here- the US acted like a bunch of nazi's with the installment of a fascist dictator, to than start a WMD war against the Iranian people when their puppet got kicked out. And in your previous post, you started sweettalking those crimes as if the cold war is a valid excuse to violently try to oppress 3rd world nations.

    The US just needs to butt-out on things that are not to any of it's concern instead of making massacres. Look at Iraq. Great job done with removing the central government, the police force and army so that ISIS could take over 1/3 of the country so millions fled to Europe. Great job.
     
  6. notme

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    People are free to start a new party and campaign against the democrats and republicans.
    Plenty hate Trump while also do not trust Hillary.... who can vote on a independent party, but massively do not.
     
  7. Margot2

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    If you confine the USN to the US coasts on the Atlantic and Pacific, you could probably reduce it in size by 70%..

    Is that what you want?
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    Go and run for office!!

    Or find someone running who shares your ideology and help them get elected!!

    We as American's have absolutely every tool we need to make things better it's just that many people prefer t BI#CH rather than actually get up off their asses and DO SOMETHING!!

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    You know many people especially people from other nations outside the U.S. and Canada have absolutely no idea just how powerful and capable the NSA actually is.....as well they have no clue just how powerful and capable U.S. Cyber Command is.

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    To close an aggressive force in and take away its ability to bully others, that would be fine, yes.
    The US is clearly an aggressive force, and a terrorist nation, so it would be of great advantage to the whole world if your armed forces were to remain at home as it will stop many terrorist atrocities and a lot of serious unrest that causes massive scale human suffering.
     
  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not "throw" the election, but influence/manipulate the election.
     
  12. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You must be a very young and idealistic person, fresh out of some high school class in civics. LOL

    I am rather the opposite, and very cynical. I have several friends who have followed the advice you gave me and were elected to office. Their efforts and ideals have changed nothing.

    As you get older you will understand that pragmatism usually prevails over idealism, if one is judging reality.
     
  13. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!!

    Hate to tell you Buddy but I am most likely older than you are!! LOL!!

    I was assigned and sent to Moscow and at the time the city named Leningrad now of course the name is changed back once again to St. Petersburg back in late 1983 and into 1984 to develop an Emergency Back Channel System of Communication after the whole Yuri Andropov / Able Archer 83 debacle when the world came within 48 seconds of ending.

    So....I have done and seen it all and what I am saying is a fact!!

    A person has all the tools at their disposal that they need if they are an American to change things.

    It's just that people love to BI#CH and are LAZY!!

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    This is going to be interesting as Trump has stated he wants to tear up the current nuclear deal with Iran.

    Now there is a real chance here that we could settle our differences once and for all as if Iran did give the U.S. what it want's and that is total unfettered access to all Iranian Nuclear Facilities.....and if Iran allowed this the result would be the United States giving Iran access to the incredibly massive U.S. Market.

    In reality that is really something much more important to Iran's real needs however what the Religious Theocracy determines are Iran's real needs are something perhaps else!!
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  15. truth and justice

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    Trump has also said that he want the US to be isolationist. He can't have it both ways. He wants closer ties with Russia, who are allies with Syria and Iran, Syria, the country that Israel states are a terrorist nation. This is going to be fun ! Israel must be so happy that their main support in the US voted for a president that is on side with their enemy
     
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    We can have closer ties to Russia without betraying Israel. Trump should tell Putin that the US will adhere to the conditions of the Iran deal, and will not attack Iran unless it breaks the deal or attacks the US or its allies. He should make this clear because A) a deal is a deal and it's important that other countries know that a deal with the US will survive through election cycles, and B) it's important that Iran break the deal first so that the US receives the international support it needs to attack yet another country over WMD's.
     
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    The previous time the US attacked a country over WMD's, unfolded that the US was blatantly lying to all the world about the WMD's Iraq had, but didn't. And look what that caused! It caused ISIS to spawn in the anarchy the US left behind, that spread to Syria, that lead to millions of refugees running to the EU.

    The world would do more than fine without the US terrorism.
     
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    There were no lies. Even if Saddam didn't have nukes, he sure as hell acted like it. Im glad we set the precedent that if you pretend to have nukes, we are coming. The world simply is too dangerous to allow that.
     
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    Huh? Not even Bush said that he thought Saddam had nukes ! Where do you get your history from ?
     
  20. notme

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    Oh yeah there were. The claim that Iraq was able to shoot a WMD in 45 minutes, or that they had trucks driving around producing WMD weapons to evade the UN fact checkers. The US and UK were full of it.

    Oh and what is the result of lying to the world? 100.000's of people died. Millions upon millions fled. Europe thanks you for the massive influx of refugees of ISIS and the rise of ISIS. The world would be far better off without the terror of the US. They surely have shown clearly that they are a huge threat to the world.
     
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    I think what Trump is doing is trying to scare our allies so that when we tell them..."Either pay your fair share for your nations defense or WE ARE OUT OF HERE!!"....they will BELIEVE IT!!

    LOL!!

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  22. Eleuthera

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    OK, I see. You just post like a youngster wearing rose-colored glasses, even though you are an old man.

    FYI, the democratic processes in this country are an illusion. You are an idealist, while I am a pragmatist.
     
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    Iraq was crippled by two decades of war and sanctions. Saddam was not a threat.

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    Saddam acted like he still had weapons because of Iran.
     
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    The US acted like, no matter what we're going to attack Iraq. Do note, the UN inspectors had to flee out of the country head over heals caused the US went to war. While them inspectors didnt find a thing.
     
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    I post like a man who has seen and done it all and is sick and tired of people who have everything they need right in front of them to get and do anything they want yet they still can't get off their asses to do anything about it!!

    LOL!!

    AA
     

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