Escalation? U.S. Navy Fires Warning Shots At Iranian Ship .....

Really? ......

 

OK..I just saw this as I must have missed it.

First of all we did NOT kill everyone.

We watched the stoning t death of a young women who had been brutally raped and her Father-in-Law asked for a ruling specific to Sharia Law to restore his families honor and he was granted that she be stoned to death due to INFIDELITY!!

Imagine that SH#!!

A young married woman is GANG RAPED and her husbands father petitions the local Religious Leadership to have her stoned and they agree!!

My Team and I had just pulled off a JOB and we were being pursued by at minimum 3 groups who were superior in numbers by a factor of 4x EACH and we were attempting to evade them and ended up hiding in the rocks and boulders on the sides of surrounding peaks around a village on a mountain plateau at around 8000 feet.

We watched as they took the poor girl out and buried her up to her chest and then the whole village surrounded her and they had a big pile of baseball to softball sized stones and the very first men to throw stones at her head, neck and torso WERE HER HUSBAND, FATHER-IN-LAW AND HER OWN FATHER!!!

Now you tell me if these scum did not deserve KILLING!!

Don't EVER talk to me about things you have absolutely no idea and no experience in as YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!

AA

 

When I read US forums I sometimes ask myself" Do they live on the same planet? Are they sane? Or what the hell is wrong with them...."
Yeah go free Poor Iranian people like you did help poor Iraq poor Serbia poorr Libya poor Vietnam and poor Syria now.
By the way thanks a lot for terrorists and first Muslim State on Europe soil. Thanks for destroying peace on middle east for a free oil and keeping your currency in tact.... If someone doesnt want use US dollar to sell oil he must be nazi and his country needs democratic help.....

Why don't you help North Korea who actually DOES HAVE nuclear weapons? No oil? Poor poeple to feed?
Iraq was better - no nukes and nice money to make.

Dont you know why US is in Syria? Why they train "moderate" muslim groups and give them weapons. Those moderate groups that cut heads off Christains they happen to catch? So that Saudi Arabia can make a new oil pipe and sell more oil for $ instead of Russia and Iran who dont want to use $.
That is reason why Western Europe is falling. That is reason why great country as Syria used to be is now one cementary.
Damn great job.
Russia will not allow you to do that. They cant. Their existance is on selling oil. And if Syria falls as US plans they would sell much less.
They allied with China and Iran.
Doesnt it sound like start of 3d world war?
Is it really worth it?

 

Right, so while you fled from 3 groups,.. you will still able to catch the news where you heard about the gang rape, and the people who were hunting you down still found the time to stone some girl.

What a load of bs... lol

 

Not only that, he knew who were the husband, father and father-in-law
That is just one of his many heroic acts !

Sadly, though, him being an intelligent guy, he shows himself being delusional and a conspiracist. You might have heard about the alien weapons that the US government have and the aliens all the astronauts have seen in our orbit

 

Iraq was strong in 1991. The US neutralized the threat, and then incurred great expense from 1991-2003 to ensure that threat didn't develop again. That expense wasn't simply financial. The Trade Center, Pentagon, USS Cole, and several embassies and passenger planes were also costs of monitoring Saddam.

Pretending to have and/or develop nuclear weapons as a deterrent is not a viable security option, and the US should continue to reinforce that notion.

 

He had intentions to acquire nukes, or at least he acted like it. He played games with the weapons inspectors for a decade, and now here we are again at a critical moment in history in which inspectors will play a vital role. I would like them to be taken seriously, but how can that be done if one allows leaders to ignore them? Hopefully Iran learned from the Iraq war that the US will not allow that behavior.

The Iraq war was the correct move, and I don't see how people are missing it, especially considering the similar scenario developing before our eyes with Iran.

 

The US prevented Saddam from acquiring WMD's, and now it will fall to the US to do the same with Iran. I'm fairly certain that most of the world doesn't want a man accountable to no branch of government, press, or any other person, to acquire nuclear weapons. This should be easy peasy from an international relations standpoint.

 

We seem to be helping YOU in POLAND good enough to YOUR satisfaction!!!

Last time I checked Poland is as close as an ally can get to the United States!!

Geee....I wonder why??? LOL!!

Perhaps because if we were not Putin would come in and annex your nation?

Yeah...Putin would do it in a SECOND if Poland did not have the United States as an ally!!

An we DID try to help the Koreans as there was this little thing called the KOREAN WAR!!?

We completely ROUTED the North Koreans until China invaded with so many men that U.S. Forces that had set up interlocking fields of fire began killing so many Red Chinese that came in HUMAN WAVES.....and as my Uncles were in the Korean War I can accurately describe to you how they came.

The first wave of Red Chinese would be armed with just single shot rifles.
The second wave would be 50% armed with rifles and 50% armed with axes, hoes, clubs or anything they had.
The third wave would be 100% armed with farm implements anything from a hoe to a rake!!
The fourth wave would all be armed with BURB GUNS...Google it if you don't know what they are!!

We killed.....thousands....10's of thousands....100's of thousands and THEY KEPT COMING!!

My Uncles told me that in one battle up near the Chinese boarder north of the Chosin Reservoir that U.S Forces were cutting down so many Red Chinese that their bodies were piling up as high as 20 FEET in some areas as the Red Chinese Generals would order human wave after human wave to charge U.S. Military Positions as we had set up massive interlocking fields of fire and as they charged we would cut them down but so many kept coming the barrels of machine guns and mortars would begin to OVERHEAT AND SEIZE AND SOMETIMES EVEN BLOW UP!!!!

My Uncles told me that they were going through ammo faster than they could be resupplied and they were KILLING CHINESE WITH THAT AMMO FIRED so the bodies were piles high everywhere and STILL they kept coming because they were so brainwashed and so indoctrinated by Mao.....well they were cannon fodder!!

Anyways.....that war ended in a stalemate but right now North Korea rattles it's CAGE and even the Chinese have had it with their S#!T!!

Thus we contain North Korea just as we CONTAIN China and Russia.....as well as Iran.

Now the United States ALONE has more oil than every single other nation on Earth put together!! The Oil has always been here it's just it has taken over 100 years of technological development to figure out how to extract it.

The U.S. also has more Natural gas and Coal than every other nation on Earth put together.

But all that will be left in the ground eventually as Lockheed Martin has had it's 5th successful test of it;s Low Temp. micro Fusion Reactors and Lockheed Fusion reactors will be set up all over the United States in the second half of the 2020's.

There is NOT going to be a WWIII.

Not as long as we exist!!

AA

 

I am going to try to ignore much of the drivel in this thread, since it bears little or no relationship to the issues in the real world.

There are 5 types of policies towards Iran that can be adopted once Trump assumes office, although the first 3 are not mutually exclusive:

1- War

Those who advocate war against Iran will realize, once they are in a position to make such a choice, that this is not a real option for the US. As much as some people here have tried to pretend otherwise in pages of arguments with me, I personally am absolutely confident in Iran's ability to inflict such significant damage to the US, its naval forces in the Persian Gulf, its bases in the region, its allies, the world economy, and its ability to defend itself against any type of conventional military aggression short of a long WWII style campaign, that my own worry about those who advocate war against Iran is that they will eventually try to compensate for the failure by releasing the 'nuclear genie' from the bottle. Otherwise, war against Iran has never really been in the cards.

2- Regime Change via funding terrorists and causing mayhem

There is an Iranian terrorist group, the MEK, who was so designated until rather recently by the US as such, which has become the new pet for the anti-Iran crowd. People like Bolton and Gingrich just among those mentioned as possible Trump nominees for the SoS position) and many other US figures (including among Democrats such as Howard Dean), have attended their rallies, took money from them (money that is itself funneled to the group through various anti-Iran states and actors, including the Saudis and Israelis), and have advocated the US funding and arming this group (alongside various ethnic minorities in Iran) to do to Iran what they did to Syria. This is a serious threat that Iran faces and I hope Iran's posture on this issue will be unequivocal and make it clear that anyone state that involves itself in this policy against Iran will be treated the same way as though it hard directly attacked the country with military force.

3- Severe Containment and Isolation of Iran as part of a longer term Regime Change plan

The advocates of this policy want to find some new excuse to bring back the anti-Iran sanctions coalition and work to isolate Iran and strangle it economically. Many of the folks who work on this script also have elements of the option #2 in mind as well. Although one of the good things about Hillary, I must admit, is that while her script did include elements of #2 and #3, she was not known to advocate associating the US with the MEK. which is a particularly loathsome group in my book.

4- Forge a relationship with ''compliant elements'' within the Iranian establishment and government

This is basically the EU approach and was the approach that was preferred by Obama and Kerry personally, even if they had to contend with various forces in their own country and in Iran who weren't interested in helping with this approach. While this approach is better than any of the options listed before it, the ultimate and real answer for the US is in option #5.

5- Try to forge a genuine, arms length, modus vivendi and rapprochement with Iran (the "Grand Bargain" option)

Ironically, while the chances that Trump will adopt options 1-3 are very high (over 50%), and Trump's approach appears least conducive to option #4, he is more likely to search for a Grand Bargain with Iran than any other previous US president. I give it at least a 10% chance over the next few years.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-iran-trump-20161116-story.html
Donald Trump's victory sparks optimism in an unlikely place: Iran

 

What will happen t Iran is very much determined by what Iran does.

If Iran does not develop Nuclear Weapons and abides by it's agreements such as the NPT then there will be no issue.

But if Iran does develop nukes.....the United States will have no choice but to invade.

AA

 

That is the drivel I am referring to.

 

You think this is drivel eh?

This is what will happen if Iran develops nukes and the Iranian leadership is well aware of it.

AA