Seismic Shift: New Survey Shows Republican Opposition to Same-Sex Marriage Plunging to All-Time Low

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe...to-samesex-marriage-hits-alltime-low-n2346892

The Republican Party is correcting itself finally, and I'm happy to see this new poll. The new generation of young Republicans (people like me) have decided that gay marriage is not some sort of weird attack on the sanctity of marriage. I'm happy to see the party evolve into a more reasonable position on an issue that should not have been an issue in the first place. I think the hold Christianity has on the Republican Party is weakening, and the party is becoming more secular, another change that I fully support.

 

i'm sure there will always be holdouts, but the vast majority has come around and relaxed on the issue, it just took a bit of time for a chunk of people to go through the 7 stages.

Give it another generation and the kids being born today will be asking grandpa about the "old days" when there was a difference between straight and gay. I know the 20 something's now really couldn't care less, there is no coming out, they just go about their day, 90% of us don't give a chit, and gradually that number will increase with exceptions to the hard core religious types and the true homophones.

I don't know anybody in my circle even notices.

 

Marriage should not even be legally recognized.

Gay marriage exemplifies exactly why.

 

I myself always favoured a more fundamental change and still do. As someone who is unmarried, I am strongly opposed to discrimination against me just because I have made a different life choice. The state should be indifferent toward marital status. Tax people individually and cut taxes enough so that nobody is worse off.

I'm not any more opposed to government same sex marriage than I am government heterosexual marriage. I can see that the issue is now settled and my favoured solution has no choice.

 

there isn't really a significant tax advantage to being married that i've noticed but I really haven't studied the numbers.

and if income is on the low end, I would think that there is an advantage to say single even if its only on paper.

 

Ostencibly, tax breaks for marriage are an incentive to have kids and create more taxpayers. An economy like ours with non-producing dependents requires perpetual population growth to remain viable.


Personally I think marriage shouldnt be the govts business, but making it such does serve a purpose.

 

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You are aware why the tax breaks exist right? For the betterment of society. We all can't be single and childless if you want a society to continue right? You understand we can't just grow kids in jars and pass them out like puppies You seem unaware of the costs of having children like the tax break is some benefit. Not having kids puts you at an extreme advantage in disposable income regardless of the tax break. You get that? You are so far ahead already.

 

Sample weighted 25% democrat heavy. Naturally. That said do what the hell you want.

Stop trying to force other people to a part of your wedding/marriage if they do not want to.

 

I am not advocating for raising their taxes, I'm advocating for cutting everyone else's. The assumption that marriage = kids and unmarried life = no kids is a faulty one in today's world, unfortunately.

I am where I am because of my choices. If a tax cut is the only thing keeping you above water maybe you should reconsider your own and not have kids. Not that I'm advocating taking away their current tax breaks anyway.

 

Get back to us when you want to participate in all the other things that Christian store owners are selling, m'kay?

 

If you were caring for a dependent, for example an elderly parent, would you take that tax break?

Yes or no?

 

I take all tax breaks offered to me under law (and a few which aren't )

 

still no excuse for single to pay taxes. you have always complained about taxes, but dont care if other people pay

 

So why can't parents with dependent children have what are essentially the same tax breaks?

 

Do you think?

 

I said nothing about benefits for parents, I am opposed to taxing individuals and couples differently, as we do here. I said I favour the state working toward indifference concerning a citizen's relationship status. As I see it the best way to do this is to cut the taxes of individuals, not to raise those of couples.

Simple. I'm a libertarian, I don't much like taxes. I have no interest in raising them on couples.

 

In my country, it is even going on.
Merkel and her party CDU (what stands for Christian Democratic Union) belong to the politically right camp and have expressed themselves as some in parliament against gay marriage, etc. It has now decided that the German Parliament can decide about it, and here, without force of the party disciplines, but every single individual parlamentarian according to his own conscience!
Of course, the right-wing camp in the CDU is angry about it, just as the left-wing camp of the CDU rejoiced.
The whole thing has of course to do with the coming election ... and therefore the other big and rather left party is annoyed, because Merkel thus has stolen them a point in the election campaign.

 

Soooooo you really think government gives the tax breaks of marriage to same sex couples as an "incentive to have kids and create more taxpayers"? Not following your logic.

 

True. But that assumption was made when we had a lets say it, more moral society. Now we congratulate single mothers who flaunt not needing men or male role models in their kids lives. Because too many people are so self centered and selfish now, they're incapable of living with another human, basking in their independence and "strength". Its a mask. Not good for overall society.

Taxes aren't effecting any major life choices for me, besides a new home. Only an idiot would have kids for the tax break. Its just a bonus to make those who want to create a family, the mot stable life overall, more beneficial. A good thing for society. Kids or not, families, gay, straight or whatever are better than a bunch of single people.

And depending on your income, filing jointly doesn't necessarily make things better.

 

Please, elaborate.

 

That's not the reason the government is in the marriage business.

Maybe in North Korea (Yet not for more tax payers) but not here.

Perhaps you and most everyone else should examine the REAL reason(s) why this and just about every other government in the civilized and not so civilized world actually IS in the marriage business.

 

Why would any clear thinking person care one iota when two consenting adults make a decision to marry?

When I decided to marry my husband, we were both adults. I didn't ask for anyone's permission or anyone's blessing. I'm not going to be a hypocrite and interject my approval or rejection when two other consenting adults make the same decision.

The gay marriage debate was one the Republicans never should have taken up. It hasn't helped them.

 

Yup. That meme is what passes for liberal intellectual prowess, that's certain.

Yes, it means that the gun seller would have been an accessory. Derp.

Of course, the buyer would have to announce that he's going to murder someone with the purchased gun.

Derp.

 

'You're wrong, but Im not telling you why or how.'

You're my ex, arent you? Stop harassing me!

Seriously tho, why would you say something like that and NOT provide what your counterpoint is?