One big issue this Charlottesville event clarifies forever.

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  1. osbornterry

    osbornterry Well-Known Member

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    A wet dream from a die-hard Trump Hater. Will you still be saying that in 2024?
     
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    Night of the Long Knives


    The Night of the Long Knives (German: Nacht der langen Messer) or "Operation Hummingbird," took place in Nazi Germany between June 30 and July 2, 1934, when the Nazi regime executed at least 85 people for political reasons. Most of those killed were members of the "Storm Battalion" (SA) (German: Sturmabteilung), a Nazi paramilitary organization. Adolf Hitler moved against the SA and its leader, Ernst Röhm, because he saw the independence of the SA and the penchant of its members for street violence as a direct threat to his power.
    Source: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
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    The Great Purge or the Great Terror (Russian: Большо́й терро́р) was a campaign of political repression in the Soviet Union which occurred from 1936 to 1938.[1] It involved a large-scale purge of the Communist Party and government officials, repression of peasants and the Red Army leadership, widespread police surveillance, suspicion of "saboteurs", "counter-revolutionaries", imprisonment, and arbitrary executions.[2] Mobile gas vans were invented to execute people without trial.[3][4][5] In Russian historiography, the period of the most intense purge, 1937–1938, is called Yezhovshchina (Russian: Ежовщина; literally, "Yezhov phenomenon",[note 1] commonly translated as "times of Yezhov" or "doings of Yezhov"), after Nikolai Yezhov, the head of the Soviet secret police, NKVD. It has been estimated that 600,000 people died at the hands of the Soviet government during the Purge.[6][7][8][9]
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

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    The terrorist arm of the Progressive Marxist Democrats presently identified as #OWS, #Antifa #BLM and Worker’s World Party (WWP), will all suffer the same fate. Then during Stalinist era there was the Cheka that was purged, Trotsky, Beria, etc., just to mention that when their usefulness was over Stalin like Hitler had them killed. Trotsky made it to Mexico, but Stalin's long reach got him. All useful idiots, just as those that follow Marxism today. They will be purged when they are no longer needed.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    There are only two things I could possibly be referring to in the context I used. Hitler's early support group was called the SA it was led by Ernst Rohm it's members were slaughtered by the SS led by Heinrich Himmler. If Memory serves Himmler was the only one of of Hitler's inner circle that matched that Blonde haired blue eyed Aryan elite and was after Hitler Himself about the nastiest piece of humanity to ever to walk the earth. But then at times even Mussolini in his better moments thought Hitler was nuts but then that truth is right there in "Mein Kampf" for anyone to see.
     
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    And then there were the so-called barracks room emperors where in the Praetorian guard auctioned off the title of emperor to the highest bidder for their services...

    That being said there is a good bit of crossover since the days of Rome between authoritarian regimes, fascist regimes, and dictatorsips. Had I to classify the regime of the family Kim in NK, it is fascist because of its repression of descent, It is a dictatorship because it is one man rule, hell it is even monarchist because the insistence on family lineage for succession All this and it still thinks of itself as Communist though for all practical purposes it's about as far from a communist regime as you can possibly get.
     
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    The nazi are fascists

    But so are the extreme liberal/progressive/socialists on the left

    I have seen no one on this forum defended the nazi's

    Antifa is an evil group along with black lives matter and occupy wall st.

    It is the lefties here not conservatives who are defending fascist thugs
     
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    Exactly!

    The extremist alt right united under the flags of fascism and racism.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Kode

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    Ever see a leftist toting a Nazi flag?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    Communist flag yes and communists killed many more people than Nazi Germany ever did but they must have been the right kind of people killed because you make a distinction.
     
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    Document that please.
     
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    The nazis were leftists

    Just not as far left as the communists waving the Hammer and Sickle
     
  11. Kode

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    Absolutely incorrect. Not one person who ever made that claim has offered a believable explanation why Nazis attack leftists and specifically and particularly why one of Hitler's first acts when he took power was to ban socialist parties and orgs., ban communist parties and orgs., ban unions, and then round up all their leaders and execute them. A leftist would unite all leftists, -not kill them.

    Now we see right wing extremists parading their Nazi flag around with leftists opposing them and the two sides fighting, and you say they are both on the same side.

    And if Nazis are "left", then why are you defending them and opposing leftists?

    W E A K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So stop spreading BS lies.
     
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    LOL, you are totally unaware of history? Don't you know about Google yet?
     
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    So the only criterion for deciding whether someone is a fascist/nazi is by whether he flies the Nazi flag?

    Ok.
     
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    Up until recently republicans and democrats shared practically the same values but they still fought like cats and dogs

    The diffence is that we had a constitution to unite us and keep the differences of opinion non violent that germans did not have

    In germany both groups were anti democratic autocrats who wanted the power for themselves and did not want to share with competing autocrats
     
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    You are asking a group of people who are rather simple minded on that subject along with many others

    Don't expect to get an answer from them that makes any sense
     
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    I didn't expect you would dare document it. You're counting military casualties at the hands of communists but not Hitler.
     
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    You're pretty good at stuffing words into other people's mouths. That's dishonest and it is flamebaiting. Did you know that?
     
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    If my perception of what you said is wrong, you are free to correct it.
     
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    What I said was very obvious and requires no "explanation". You're being dishonest. Do you just want attention? Is that it?
     
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    So then neither do you have a believable answer. I knew that. If you think I'm wrong about that just try documenting your theory.
     
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    So...from now on, whenever someone questions any aspect of what I say, all I would need to do is say, "what I said was very obvious and requires no explanation", and I get out of jail free?

    I think that if I wanted attention, I would only try to get it from a real White Man. Not you.
     
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    Genocide is not military.
     
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    No

    I have given you an answer

    If you don't like it come up with an answer of your own
     
  24. Kode

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    Why is it that you don't count the murder of half of the Congo (at least ~10 million) to enrich a few capitalists and a Belgian aristocrat as part of the death toll of capitalism?

    Why is it that you don't count all the other victims of capitalist empires as victims of capitalism? Empire is an especially salient example as it is directly related to profit and the expansion of what we might now see as the first mega-companies.

    Why don't you count all the victims of famine in capitalist countries as victims of capitalism?

    Why don't you count all the victims of authoritarian pro-capitalist governments, of Pinochet, the Colombian right-wing militias, the Mozambique right-wing militias, and so on as victims of capitalism?

    Why don't you count the hundreds and hundreds of millions of people who have died of hunger and/or being overworked in capitalist countries as victims of capitalism?

    Somehow when ostensibly socialist governments are murderous and awful, you blame the very concept of social ownership and socialism itself, but when capitalists and capitalist governments rack up an enormous death toll, it's not capitalism's fault?
     
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    Why is it you support those on your side of the fence that murdered tens of millions?
     

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