One big issue this Charlottesville event clarifies forever.

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  1. Mac-7

    Mac-7 Banned

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    I think we should acknowledge crimes committed on both sides

    But Christian nations like Belgium used to be had a conscience that godless collectivist societies lack

    So the Congo was eventually freed from colonialism

    But that will never happen to Tibet
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Yep. All Nazis wer leftist before the Spanish civil war.
     
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    I don't.
     
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    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, I think you are right.
     
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    pfffft.

    Not true again.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am from the Left and, while I totally agree that the anti-hate protesters had at least as much right to express their opinion than the pro-hate extremists Right, I do not sponsor or agree with the tactics of the anti-fa.

    However, they are in NO WAY more violent than the bigoted, racists White supremacists, KKK, and Nazis who walked with torches and sponsored violence the next day, such violence that it killed a young non-violent person and injured 19 more! This is terrorism, and while I (I repeat again) do NOT support alt-fa, I am in 100% support of all the thousands of non-violents counter protesters in Charlottesville, Boston and in every other cities.

    I do NOT believe that it is a fair equivalency between the hateful extremists on the right and those who oppose them on the Left. There will NEVER be.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fascism IS WRONG. Always.
    Nazism is evil. KKK is evil. The Alt-right is just a "new, more acceptable" name for Right wing extremism.

    Alt-Right is a virus that could spread, unless the huge majority of Americans who do not agree with those evil ideology stand up and speak up to provide a counter virus.

    Still, I do not support Alt-fa, because I do not support violence in any case, but it is clear that Alt-Right is immensely more ready and willing to use violence than even alt-fa!
     
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    This pretty much sums up the TDS logic.

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    What was the hateful leftwing extremist excuse for all the other violent demonstrations they have been holding around the country?

    The leftwing has not reported it but I suspect there were white people at the demonstration that were not members of the kKk or neo nazis who also oppose tearing down confederate monuments

    The ultimate aggressors in this dust-up are liberals who want to stir up hate from 150 years ago
     
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    Well, trump isn't hitler so....
     
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    Actually quite True every leftist of the day including uncle joe thought they were good socialist. That opinion didn't change until after the start of The Spanish Civil War. Interestingly enough they went back to being Socialist after the Russo-German Nonaggression Pact was signed. The way the progressives of the day spun like tops on that issue is almost comical. The final turn came when Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa in 1841. By then the only surprising thing was that there weren't shovel brigades out diffing leftist out of the ground after they corkscrewed themselves into it while spinning like a top.
     
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    Surely you Jest Karinski was as much a socialist as Lenin didn't stop Lenin from wiping him out Trotsky was as much communist if not more than Stalin didn't keep Stalin from having him killed along with about half the rest of the communist party apparatus. Hitler didn't kill the rest of the socialist parties in Germany because they were socialists he killed them for the exact same reason Stalin killed all the other socialist in Russia, the were a threat to his power base.

    What makes them right wing? The fact that they want government to do different things than you do? And by the way I'm not defending the scum, merely saying they are no different under the skin than Antifa
     
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    Except nobody is saying there is an equivalency. They are just stating a fact, which is that both sides engaged in violence. This is a fact.

    If I say that the Nazis need oxygen to live, and that the Antifa do, too, am I "drawing an equivalency" between them?

    You are just spewing opinions. Opinions aren't arguments.
     
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    These White Nationalists don't even have intelligence to create their own flags. They have to snitch them from dead causes of the past to promote their vague agendas--kinda to lazy Trump Haters on this website who snitch articles from other websites to promote their silly agendas.

    They both lack imagination and prefer to lay at the feet of wild svengalis.
     
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    WEAK!!!! So you claim a leftist kills leftists rather than uniting with them to protect power, but they don't kill those of the right. They're no threat, eh? LOL!!! And you use INDIVIDUALS like Trotsky to explain collective extermination of leftists by fascists. LOL!!!

    Other reasons:
    1. Corporatism of fascism.
    2. Favoritism of the right, whom he didn't kill.
    3. Mussolini.
    4. All fascist states practiced business-friendly economic policies
    5. All fascist states repressed labour unions
    6. Admiration of fascists and fascism comes from the right, not the left.
    7. We saw a current example of the historic trend of fascists violently opposing the left and vice versa.

    In the 1920s British conservatives generally approved of Mussolini, and liberals and socialists generally criticised him. I don’t mean that conservatives wanted fascism in Britain, but they thought it was an effective antidote to communism, admired fascist law & order, and found in it a healthy example of national pride.

    Now, finally, find one thing leftist or pro-left in nature about this site: https://thedailybale.wordpress.com/tag/daily-stormer/

     
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    What in hell are you trying to say?
     

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