What Happened? How the Polls got Hillary's Defeat so Wrong.

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  1. rahl

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    Since there is no evidence that ANY illegal aliens voted.........the default position is, no illegals voted.
     
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    Nah.

    It wasn't noncitizens.

    It was really aliens funded by Bigfoot and Bat Boy.
     
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    That was last week's excuse. Keep up.
     
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    I did. It's in the link. Do you know how to click on links?
     
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    You proved that millions of illegals voted for Clinton in the 2016 election? Where?
     
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    Too Close To Call would have been the appropriate call.
    Instead, being denizens of the media, they pimped Hillary as the winner.

    What part do I have incorrect?

    Yes, 1.1% is missing badly as the results demonstrate because they made the call.
    Who knew better than these poll geniuses that polls were within their margin of error and should not have made the call?
    In 2016, the pollsters campaign for Hillary did indeed make them "meaningless".
     
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    No, I provided proof that illegals voted. You said zero illegals voted. The President's commission of voting will find out exactly how many it was.
     
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    No, I said I know of no evidence for illegals voting.

    So when you made the claim about millions of illegals voting for Clinton, you did so knowing full well you can't support the claim?
     
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    Anyone who bothers to have the slighest understanding of polls will know that margin of error is important. All anyone has to do is actually read the poll and how they are is conducted. Margin of error is available for every poll for anyone willing to make the slightest effort.

    And no missing by 1.1% s not missing badly. The only real issue is the pollsters should have made margin of error statements to educate the statistically uneducated.
     
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    The only time Trump comports himself well is when he reads from the teleprompter. He has made America a laughingstock on the world stage and blown the North Korea issue. His only sucess is ISIS and that is because he hasn't ruined what Obsma set up.
     
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    Hahahaha. Obama called them the JV team and did nothing to stop them. But now you are giving Obama credit for Trump's moves! LMAO!

     
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    Except of course there have been no Trump moves except minor changes in the rules of engagement. That and of course his pretending when deaths occur it it the generals fault.
     
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    What are you talking about? Hillary DID win. After all, she got 3 MILLION more votes than Trump did, so she should be president.

    Ignore the fact that we've NEVER elected a president based on popular vote, that way, Hillary DID win!
     
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    Hillary lost. I don't know what universe you reside in, but in my universe, Hillary lost. This thread is about how wrong the polls were.

    As for 3 million more votes, that margin came exclusively from CA (and nationally, from illegally cast votes). Trump won the popular vote in the other 49 states. We have a Republic and a electoral college to prevent one state from tyrannizing the others.
     
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    The polls were correct. Clinton won by 3 million votes and the "illegal votes" thing is simply Trump saying stupid shyt.

    The polls got it right. They showed the race tightening in the last few days and that's what happened.
     
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    No. The polls showing Hillary with large margins were only for stupid people who are followers and easily fooled. Those polls convinced them Hillary would win which helped to pad her popular vote numbers but if the polls were accurate they would have shown Trump ahead and he would have gotten the vote Hillary got...that of stupid people who want to belong because they voted for Hillary because they thought she was the winner. The last minute deciders break for who they think is the winner. They are stupid and led by the nose by the lying media.
     
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    Ummm... Trump WASN'T ahead in the popular vote.

    But yes...people were complacent.

    I've said for a long time...Dems have to VOTE.

    Republicans can only steal it if it's close.
     
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    One poll consistently had Trump ahead in the polls most of the time...The LA Times Poll. I think they were right all along. But again, the fake news media with their fake polls convinced stupid people who want to vote for the winner to vote for Hillary by skewing the polls in her favor.
     
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    Clinton did not win anything, period.
     
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    She won the popular vote...which is what this thread is about
     
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    Which is nothing. Thus, my statement.

    And, lets be clear:
    Had the election turned on the popular vote, Hillary, who did not win a majority of the popular vote, still loses.
     
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    I think because when push came to shove - Clinton was a known quantity (and none too impressive). Whereas Trump - as a politician - was an unknown commodity.
    So, lots of Americans who were planning to vote for Clinton changed their minds and took a chance on the unknown instead of the mediocre known.

    That is my guess.
     
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    No, this thread is about how the polls got Hillary's defeat so wrong...

    Here's an interesting stat that we can have a look at, Trump won 2,623 counties to Hillary's 489.

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