Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    aborting the process of creating a baby is not homicide... get real

    most abortions are natural.. also called miscarriages, can happen for a variety of reasons early on, and no... not homicide
     
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    under Federal law, you cannot be charged with a crime for getting an abortion.
     
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    Unfortunately the states are trying to change that

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/opinion/pregnant-and-no-civil-rights.html
     
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    no state has made it a crime to get an abortion.
     
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    a child is created at conception, hence the LANGUAGE of child in utero at any stage of development in the federal law of the UVVA.

    You know, as do
    I, that natural abortions are commonly called miscarriages. Abortion comminly refers to an intentional killing of a child in utero.
     
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    if they thought abortion was such a bad thing why did they keep it legal?
     
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    What federal law declares a fetus is legally a child.?

    Even if it did how does that change women's right to an abortion? It doesn't. :) It doesn't change the FACT that a fetus is a fetus....scientifically and legally..
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus has NO rights, it does have protections and no matter what the UVVA says it includes a clause that says it does NOT have anything to do with abortion or women's right to an abortion. It does NOT make a fetus a person, it can't, it didn't.




    I just posted the truth...the UVVA did NOT overturn RvW. It did NOT, and cannot give fetuses rights no matter what it , or YOU, call it.


    WHY are YOU here ? You don't seem to have a point other than you want abortion called homicide ....and you are free to do that ...So what's your problem?
     
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    OH NO NO NO ..... those who want to yell "MURDER" and/or "Homicide" are NOT going to get away with AVOIDING exactly how this would be

    Detected,

    Investigated,

    Proven,

    and punished.


    If it's homicide and a "crime" then WHERE is the BODY?


    HOW would a woman be suspected ?

    How would a woman be INVESTIGATED.......a physical exam ? Proves NOTHING....


    The Fetus Patrol that checks every garbage can and sewage system in the US where there's females old enough to be pregnant?

    YUP, the "little problems" Anti-Rights people just want to ignore in their quest to just throw the B in jail, that'll show her!!!
     
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    If a "guy" was alive and then dead

    A. There's a BODY.

    B. There is proof that he EXISTED.

    No such thing with a miscarriage or abortion
     
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    OMGAWD!

    You expected FACTS to sway a devoted Anti-Women's Rights person!!???



    No, he'll scream, "homicide" "homicide" over and over again and never realize it just does NOT matter what he calls it :)
     
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    That's a POINT ! ????


    SO WHAT!


     
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    No, you are stumped :)
     
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    Ignore the morning after pill, any form of hormonal birth control can result in fertilization followed by abortion of the zygote in a process nearly identical to use of the morning after pill. They would all have to be made illegal.

    Every single miscarriage would have to be investigated since there are any number of herbal methods for inducing miscarriages.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    You understand that an abortion and a miscarriage in most cases are functionally indistinguishable without forensic investigation, yes?
     
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    So every single miscarriage would need to investigated because every single miscarriage has the same evidence of a crime as an abortion would.
     
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    So, you would like every miscarrriage to be investigated in case it was an abortion?
     
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    Sorry I replied before I read your reply :p
     
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    Wrong on a couple of counts

    A "'child" is NOT created at conception

    What is created at conception is a fertilised egg that may well end up on a tampon if the conditions are not right for implantation

    In Medicine "Abortion" is a general term used for any termination of pregnancy particularly in the first few months. What you call a miscarrriage is, in medical terms a "natural abortion".
     
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    You are quite clearly incorrect. Legally and otherwise.
     
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    I said commonly referred to. You really don't know what those words mean?
     
  25. Whaler17

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    Nope, that is an baseless assumption.
     

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