Two students dead, 12 others wounded by gunfire in Kentucky high school shooting

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  1. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    And/or black.
     
  2. dairyair

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    Nah, if the kid was muslim, black, or illegal, this thread would be 50pp long.

    So it must be an ADHD white kid.

    All of these killings are tragic.
     
  3. Natural Citizen

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    Watching the video, I noticed just how much that school looked like a prison facility. Geez. Hardly any windows and what windows they did have were a few tiny little rows like we see in the prisons.
     
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    The same companies that build schools, build prisons.
    Very different from other countries.
     
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    Said no rational person, ever.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to drift off into the weeds over sentences, but a few things makes me wonder.
    1. How can one person see the death penalty as the sole just measure yet others see life in prison or others see maybe 10 years as long enough. Bear in mind the jail is not optimum to educate a person to be a decent human being.
    2. Should prisons amount to education camps? If you put a person into prison for life, why not be done with it and just execute them?
    Anyway, this boy from what I see would have ended the lives of a dozen kids. He was not that great at killing or he would have far exceeded the known deaths.

    Let's not ignore the parents of the dead and injured. They suffered the most. We get to be the crowd on the hill watching it happen. We did not suffer any lost children.

    I am so thankful all of my kids got through schools where nothing like this took place. Most schools are safe for our children.
     
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    Wait... you aren't going to argue correlation = causation, are you?
    'Cause that would be pretty silly - as I'm sure you'll agree.
     
  8. TOG 6

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    It was the lead story on ABC Nightly.
    I suspect because not enough of the correct color kids were killed, with the right kind of gun - its doesn't fit the narrative, so it gets pushed aside.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Probably the same reason this story and OP has only started its 4th page after being out all day.
    White on white.
    Not enough interest.
    Although, just saw the story on local news.
     
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    I would figure the Dems would have their media all over this but then I realized today's hysteria was over Mueller wanting to talk to Trump.

    Priorities, everyone's got um.
     
  11. dairyair

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    Just shows how wrong folks are about what they think the media is about.
     
  12. straight ahead

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    Execution within a week.
     
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    So the next time a minority child gets into some sort of trouble, you're going to hold the same standard, correct?
     
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    Ok, so again, the next time a minority child commits a crime, you're going to follow the same "wait and see" approach, correct? You're not going to run and blame the parents, environment, and holler "liberal" or any of those things, correct?
     
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    I love when blind, bigoted partisanship overruns rational thought. Keep up the good work.
     
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    Tranlsation: I'm glad the kids were shot, it eliminates Trump voters. Trump is bad.

    Most kids under 30 are liberal. I have no idea what this kid's politics are but he's most likely to be part of the boobs and video games vote. Now his young life is effectively over. Given attitudes like Andy Jackson just expressed, the kid should just hang himself because he didn't get the help he needed to prevent this tragedy nor is he likely to do so. He'll be tried, convicted and sentenced to life in prison. The damage to the other lives involved is incalculable. Three of the survivors were hit in the head, I don't know the extent of the other wounds.

    How to prevent these tragedies? Blame the NRA and Trump? No, that's bullshit and just a political excuse to push an agenda. Only an idiot would blame Bill Clinton for the 1999 Columbine shooting. If "We, the People" want to solve a problem, then we must understand the causes of that problem. Only ****ing morons believe that if we got rid of the NRA and elected Hillary as President that these problems would go away. The problem here is a severe lack of mental healthcare support and legislation allowing it. If it were up to me, every public school kid would spend an hour every year with a mental healthcare specialist just like they get physicals and vaccinations. If follow-up is required, it would be done. If parents objected, they could home school or use private school....but I see private schools going the same way in order to prevent similar tragedies.

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/schoolviolence/risk.html
    School violence isn’t easy to understand. There is no single reason why students become violent. Some are just following behavior they’ve seen at home, in their neighborhoods, or in video games, movies, or television. Sometimes, people who turn violent are victims of bullying who have hit a limit and feel like they would do anything to make it stop. They might feel isolated and rejected by their peers. These are only a few of the reasons why a person may become violent.

    Research on youth violence has increased our understanding of factors that make some populations more vulnerable to victimization and perpetration. Risk factors increase the likelihood that a young person will become violent. However, risk factors are not direct causes of youth violence; instead, risk factors contribute to the likelihood of youth violence occurring.1,2

    Detailed information about the Risk and Protective Factors associated with youth violence is available.



    http://www.voicesofyouth.org/en/posts/violence-in-schools--2
    Firstly, schools should set into action strong disciplinary measures which perpetrators of the act will face, if they fail to abide by the institution’s rules and regulations. There should also be up-to-date security measures in schools and school-sponsored events, to ensure that students are properly searched and stripped of any kind of weapon before entering the premises. The school buildings and school-sponsored events should also be properly guarded in order to quickly detect any possible threats of violence. The need to engage students in awareness campaigns cannot be over emphasized. Students should be counseled and enlightened on anger-management, conflict resolution, character development and a host of other topics that will help to deal with the psychological issues associated with school violence.

    Parents/Guardians have a key role to play as they should ensure that the atmosphere at home, where the child/ward is nurtured is violent-free. Adults should bear in mind that teenagers are impressionable and, as such, they tend to adopt their behavioral standards from what is obtainable in their households. Effective communication between parents and their children will help reduce some of the perceived pressures which cause students to act violently; also, proper monitoring of the association that children/wards keep is a means through which the problem of school violence can be solved. Parents may also seek professional advice regarding the type of video games and television programs that children should be exposed to.

    In conclusion, the larger community such as non-governmental organizations should make concerted efforts to reach out to students and other youth in order to properly address issues of drug abuse, social anxieties and other forms of mental or affective disorders. The legal system in less-developed nations should also be reviewed in order to accommodate specific laws for school violence. The government should also update statistical data on school violence, in order to further enlighten the general public about the menace. Violence in schools is a social problem with an enormous ripple effect- one act of violence can trigger numerous negative outcomes- hence, the community is expected to work as a whole in order to curb this social ill.
     
  17. truth and justice

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    Thanks for bringing up an attack that backs up my post even though I said "most". Here is what new regulations were put into law in Connecticut after this shooting:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/nyregion/connecticut-lawmakers-pass-gun-limits.html


    So from being a relaxed gun law state to a more controlled gun law state after this shooting. Meanwhile 10 states decided to relax gun laws even more after this shooting, pressured by the NRA
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/post-newtown-states-loosen-gun-restrictions.html
     
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    None of which would have prevented the shooting, as the rifle stolen by Lanza was already banned under CT law.
     
  19. superbadbrutha

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    How do you know they raised their son to do this?
     
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    So if the kid's family lived in the ghetto you automatically AssUMe that they are teaching their kids to go to school and shoot their fellow students. It's this type of racist thinking that just blows me away.

    It's these families that these shooters come from.

    So you contradict your own thoughts.
     
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    If true, he better hope that the Democrats take over control of Congress so as a convicted felon he will be able to vote for Trump.

    But the vast majority of criminals tend to vote the Democratic ticket just like non citizens do.
     
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    CT was not a "relaxed" gun state before the shooting... Stop reading opinion pieces.
     
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    I find it amazing with as many as 17 people dead, wounded or injured and a 15 year old kid in jail that some people are more interested in things like whether the news got the time correct or why there is other news on the same page.

    These are the things we need to be looking at and talking about if we ever want to get to the bottom of these shooting incidents:
     
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    The NRA and Rational have never gone together.
     
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