Two students dead, 12 others wounded by gunfire in Kentucky high school shooting

Funny. Let us know when yo have something meaningful to add to the conversation.

 

Just so you know, Reuters has it right.

Travelmath doesn't show it but Kentucky has 2 time zones: CST (+4 hrs Hawaii/-6 hrs GMT) and EST (+5 Hawaii/-5 GMT).

The incident occurred in the CST zone where 8am = 4am in Hawaii = 14:00 GMT.

 

Why do you say that?

 

It was on a list of talking points he found on his mother's i-Phone.

 

Link? LOL

I've been a member of the NRA off and on for years. Their constant calls for donations are a PITA. I hadn't been a member for about 10 years when Sandy Hook happened and the Democrats, with Obama in the lead, tried to reenact Clinton's gun ban and then some. I joined the NRA with a 5 year membership. A year later they had a special, and I signed up for another 5. Why? Because they are the only organization that effectively defends American's Second Amendment rights. If you want to say Rational doesn't go with something, then make it "Rational and the Democratic anti-gun movement have never gone together".

Democrats and the anti-gun mob cannot be trusted. Give them an inch and they take a mile. Want reasonable gun laws? Want stronger laws preventing criminals and the mentally ill from accessing firearms? Me too. The Democrat's answer to "reasonable gun laws"? Treat every law abiding gun owner as a criminal. Make it illegal for a father to buy a single-shot .22 rifle or 20 gauge shotgun and give it to his 13 year old son without dragging him down to have a background check. The anti-gun mob treats gun owners worse than they do illegal immigrants.

 

Unlikely. No doubt the kid is on suicide watch, but if he's smart, he'll know how to beat that.

 

Of course not knowing your media preferences I run the risk of using a site you would immediately disregard so, here's a couple different ones. Hopefully you will check with your own favorite sites before making a decision.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/01/17/obama-authorizes-federal-research-gun-violence

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...gun-research-yields-little-upshot-f2D11733547

http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/

And as to why there hasn't been a study till then:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-government-study-gun-violence/story?id=50300379

And of course, a link to the actual study results:

https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3?go-to-page=1#15

 

Simple when something like this happens people wonder why.... So re-read my post and try again.

 

Why is the CDC being barred from studying gun violence? The NRA are paying reoyb Congress men millions of dollars to keep this country from finding a solution to mass shooting a.

The NRA does not care about lives being taken. They are more interested in making a dollar.

 

I have known a couple parents in my long life who raised their kids well, but had one with mental problems. Proper raising does not cure mental illness. So they take em to the doctor and they get put on drugs. But the drugs make it worse.

Every criminal is not a criminal because of his raising. Every mentally ill person is not mentally ill because of his raising. Just the facts ma'am.

 

Negative Ghostrider, it's because the intent of the CDC to promote that gun ownership was a public health hazard and that is in direct violation of the Dickey Amendment, which mandated that "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control".

If you just rely on media reports, you won't see the conversation between Mark Rosenburg and Congressman Dickey and what very likely is the very reason the CDC was not allowed to perform the study. However, I have for your perusal, the actual transcript of that very meeting, and if you read through it, you will see the CDC had every intention of promoting gun control measures with whatever they discovered in the study, which is the very thing that the Dickey Amendment is in place to prevent.

Transcript --> https://archive.org/stream/departmentsoflab00unit_4/departmentsoflab00unit_4_djvu.txt

I don't expect you to believe me, but here's another site more suited to your views that says the same things I am saying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hut-down-for-20-years/?utm_term=.ccac8d38a013

The NRA had nothing to do with it.

 

They aren't. Someone lied to you.

The NRA is a non-profit. Someone lied to you.

 

The CDC isn't being barred from studying gun violence. Feel free to prove they are.

Lobbies pay Congressmen millions of dollars every year. When you find a solution to stopping it, let me know and I'll support you. In the mean time, notice that the NRA is't even in the top ten so your anger is both misdirected and biased:

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/318177-lobbyings-top-50-whos-spending-big
Fifty companies and industry groups shelled out more than $716 million to lobby the federal government and Congress last year, according to data provided to The Hill by the Center for Responsive Politics.

The eye-popping total represents nearly a quarter of all federal lobbying dollars in 2016 and a slight increase over 2015, when the 50 biggest spenders doled out $715 million.

The five biggest spenders in lobbying last year, in descending order, were the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Realtors, Blue Cross Blue Shield, the American Hospital Association and the Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America.
Rounding out the top 10 were the American Medical Association, Boeing, the National Association of Broadcasters, AT&T and Business Roundtable.

Influencing the government has become a multibillion-dollar business, with companies and trade associations hiring lobbyists and attorneys to push their agenda and shape policymaking.

 

I'll summarize:

Thoughts and prayers

Collateral damage

Price of freedom

Mental illness

 

I really think the sickness of gun violence will fall, just as the evil defense of tobacco feel, when scientific evidence becomes undeniable. But it will takes generations and the deaths if millions before the NRA and the GOP talents to "Facts."

Money and Profit, rather than rational thoughts and reason are carrying the day...for now.

 

Don't forget the evil defense of the automobile industry and the 64,000 annual drug OD deaths and the complete disregard of over 44,000 annual known suicide deaths.

 

I'm curious what the stats are of people using cars for murder and committing suicide, seems a bit clunky as apposed to an object designed specifically for that.

 

No one has forgotten those. There have been many improvements and laws with respect to automobiles to reduce deaths and accidents. There has also been much help to reduce OD's and depression

 

You mean that famous.Republican Senator Robert Byrd?

 

Gun violence is not a disease it is a crime. Which agency is best suited to investigate criminal matters?

 

No, no, no...everytime there is a shooting, the GOP line is...this person had a mental issue. So placing a deadly object with a person with a mental issue is not a good idea. God controls the amount of mentally disturbed people we have. We control the dissemination of those deady objects called fire arms. The choice is simple...

 

How many bills did Pres Obama present to do away with the 2nd Amendment.

 

The science is already undeniable: Gun violence is driven by human nature.
This will never change.

 

Indeed it is: Leave the rights of the law abiding alone and address the people who commit the crimes.

 

Allow the professional, the CDC to determine that, not u or the NRA.