Arm the teachers...seriously?

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  1. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know that I would equate school shooters to moms who kill their babies, but if you say so.
     
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    You keep bring that up

    But the right to kill unborn children has nothing to do with the right of self defense
     
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    Doeesn't answer the question
     
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    nothing flawed in what I said.. The only thing flawed is saying because cars are registered guns should be as well.

    Just out of curiosity why would someone that is going to commit murder care about a unregistered gun charge? If a criminal is willing to break the largest law we have with murder and risk 25 to life in jail or possible even a death sentence then why would you think more laws are going to stop him?
     
  5. Renee

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    Of course you wouldn’t because you believe a zygote is a child. It is illegal to kill babies, so stop personifying a ZEF..
    guns kill real people..But too many like you life begins at conception and ends at birth
     
  6. Texan

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    I guess we're just a scourge on society.
     
  7. Renee

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    Well we are in agreement there
     
  8. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Properly trained adults screw-up, properly trained adults commit crimes, properly trained adults abuse their authority....exceptions to the rule, but periodic occurrences none-the-less (i.e., the military, local and federal law enforcement). As I said before, you have documentation of the occasional teacher melt down, physically (if not emotionally) abusing kids, etc. Putting guns into the mix across the country is not a good idea.
     
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  9. kungfuliberal

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    1. No kidding....the chronology of the posts shows we've done that dance and why. Your insipid stubbornness only rates with you, NOT the objective reader.
    2. The chronology of the posts makes you out to be a liar....claiming to the contrary none-withstanding.
    3. Again, you lie....I said time and again that registration of a weapon gives the police a better way to track in case a crime is committed with said weapon. I said you need a license to buy one, period. THAT in and of itself is a paper trail IF the official seller keeps good receipt records.

    Look man, it's clear that you can't muster a logical or rational refutation of what I put forth...so you play dumb and just keep rehashing the SOS...occasionally lying about what has transpired. So unless you've got something stronger or more honest, I'd say we're done here.
     
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    Because you didn't follow the chronology of the exchanges...or is clicking a little arrow to much for you? And of course YOU can't provide any factual documentation to support your claims. I'm done with this convoluted crap that you spew because you just can't concede a point.
     
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    Imagine if criminals could no longer have access to guns? What a novel idea!
     
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    Now you're just being stubborn to the point of insipidness. Anyone with a high school understanding of logic sees the flaws I've pointed out. Then you put forth a stupid question that displays willful ignorance.....criminals either buy guns on the black market, steal them or have an accomplice without a criminal record buy them. That is why I mentioned the "iron pipeline"...something you obviously did not read up on. The registration would be to aide the police to trace a weapon used in a crime...IF the serial numbers have not be effectively erased.
    Unless you've got something new, I'd say we're done here.
     
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    If im lying, prove it. Quote me contradicting myself. Its possible I mispoke, typo'd or used innaccurate wording... though I know what my points have been and it seems far more likely you're either misremembering or making shiz up.

    So prove it.
     
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    I can make the same argument for the professional security guards you advocate. But beyond that, when it comes to schools (and other soft targets) unfortunately guns are already “into the mix” as news headlines sadly show us with alarming frequency.

    Thay said, in my observation rogue teachers are extremely rare.

    The biggest advantage to teachers carrying concealed - as opposed to uniformed security - is the shooter has to walk into a situation knowing multiple responsible adults are armed - but he has no idea who - greatly increasing the odds in favor of the school.

    Again, I can make that argument about anyone. And if a teacher is predisposed to violence why do you think a policy and a sign will prevent her from bringing her piece to school?
     
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    There is only one way to accomplish that - but the ACLU won’t let us do it.
     
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    And anyone with a grade school understanding of logic can understand that because you dont have to register your car, using the car registration/gun registration argument is flawed

    LOL you made a bad argument and then just proved how flawed it was in the same post! well done..
     
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    yep make all guns illegal so that should keep them out of the hands of criminals.. like cocaine and heroin are illegal and we know criminals cant get drugs right?? oops..
     
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    I bet calls in June to try to motivate teachers not to quit...yeah, now as,ing them to carry guns is so appealing (sarcasm alert)
     
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    Why would you not want responsible qualified adults equipped with the tools to protect our schoolchildren?
     
  20. Renee

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    The same reason I wouldn’t want cops to have to learn how to teach algebra!
     
  21. QLB

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    Are you saying cops can't master algebra?
     
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    You guys want to turn teachers into Vigilantes.... What could go wrong?
     
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    The only person who brought up vigilantes is you.
     
  24. Renee

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    They shouldnt have to! Nor should teachers have to learn how to shoot people. Many cops can’t master algebra..so what? It’s not their job
     
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    What if they want it to be their job? Boom.
     

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