Ukraine should blow up Putin's Crimea bridge

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  1. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    I've sent vis several links of troops in Donbass...total silence:)).
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    should have sent them to Jeanette... clearly she's more forthcoming :D
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wyly, stop reading the MSM because you're very confused. The OSCE was guarding the Russian border, and they said that the volunteers coming in from Russia had on uniforms, but didn't have any arms. After they entered the Donbas, they would go to a depot and pick up a gun and then test it at another spot. Everything the Donbas militia had including tanks, came from the Ukrainian troops that surrendered.

    When General Breedlove was screaming about a Russian invasion with tanks and men, the German Intelligence agents couldn't see them - nor could the American agents. According to the German 'Speigel', the General's mental health was questioned, and it was reported to his superior as such.

    As for the Crimea, according to law Russia was allowed to keep 25 thousand troops at Sevastopol. When protesters from Crimea went to Maidan to support Yanukovich, their buses were stopped and burned by the Right Sector on the way back. The Crimeans were harassed for eight hours, and they killed 7. Some tried to escape, and 20 are missing and presumed dead.

    The Right Sector told the protesters that they were coming to Crimea to do the same to the others. This is why the Crimean government declared their independence, and why they asked the Russian troops to protect them until a referendum could be held.

    This video explains why the Crimeans declared their independence:

     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    those weren't troops, they're just russian boys on vacation according to putin...I never knew the donbass was such tourist hot spot...
     
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    Sounds like a lot of great propaganda designed to cement Russia's hold on Crimea.
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    considering that all occurred after russia illegally annexed crimea, why would Ukraine supply water and electricity to russians who have just occupied their territory, that's absurd...what other BS are you gonna try sell us...
     
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    Russia's hold on Crimea was cemented 300 years ago. The Crimeans speak Russian, they conduct their business in Russian, they go to Russian schools, and they marry Russians.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know that humanity and sacrificing for others is beyond the comprehension of many on this forum, but the Russians volunteered their vacation time to free the people of Eastern Ukraine from the junta. They came from other countries too. Here's Tex Bentley an American. Let him tell you:


     
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    How would you know?
     
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    That’s just stupid.
     
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    You win the award!
     
  12. vis

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    Are they in Kiev? So far as I know, not.
     
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    It is not that stupid as you think. People in Crimea are happy that they do not have the same situation as in Donbass.
     
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    That would be FUNNY if Ukraine did that.

    But, it would be TOO Funny.

    So, I don't think they'll blow up the bridge.

    That said, it is a cool bridge.
     
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    It is not a big surprise for me, I knew that you like Nazi-Bandera philosophy who also wanted to kill Russians.
     
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    I usually don't threaten people, but If you go all the way to Kiev we're going to talk about you in the UN
     
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    This is the internet. vis, and you know what they say - that the internet attracts all kinds of wackos??
     
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    Tom Rogan may suffer from acute intellectual insufficiency or an unconventional psychic organization, simply he or an idiot, or a terrorist.

    The matter is that no matter how you treat the status of the Crimea (recognize it as Russian or do not recognize it), the bridge is a civilian infrastructure facility. The blow on it is qualified as international terrorism. And calls for such a strike are incitement to terrorist activities. However, the prosecutor can also qualify this as an organization of a terrorist group.
    Thus, following the principles of the extraterritoriality of its justice (which, incidentally, was introduced into international practice by the United States), Russia can demand from the US the arrest and extradition of international terrorist Tom Rogan. Or can demand to press him for terrorism it on American territory.
    The fact of the crime is obvious, American legislation treats it even more unambiguously than the Russian one. And, if in Russia, in the absence of the fact of an attack on the Crimean bridge, Tom Rogan can get 8-10 years, then in the US, there may be 25 years, and 250. American laws in this regard are very plastic.
    Moreover, Russia can (again following the American example) demand that Rogan be arrested and extradited from third countries if he finds himself in their territory. In fact, Moscow has the opportunity to dramatically complicate the life of an inadequate American journalist, and at the same time, the US State Department.

    By the way, yesterday the investigative committee of Russia opened a criminal case against this journalist. https://iz.ru/744752/2018-05-18/sk-...prizvavshego-bombit-krymskii-most-zhurnalista
     
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    Ehm ... Crimea is still Russia at least ... even our governemnts have problems about to accept this until now and further...
    And I have no problem about that Crimea is now Russia, I still wondered why it was not yet directly part of Russia after end of USSR. But I think Boris Yeltsin was at this time again too early drunken to realize and do it. ;-)
     
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    UN seems to be a useless organization. And where do we talk in this case if Ukraine blows up the bridge?
     
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    First of all, water and electricity weren't free. Ukraine sold it to Crimea for money.
    And they (Ukraine) claim that Crimeans are their citizens. They say Crimeans suffer of occupation.
    So, why they tried to starve, to exhaust thirst, and to deprive them of electricity the people who, they say, suffer of illegal occupation? Their own citizens? It's strange.
     
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    Sounds like simple facts.
     
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    Has nothing to do with nazi bandera shlyepahk vis, you vatniks use "nazi bandera" for everything you hate,lol.
     
  24. vis

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    Of course, you do, as you call for killing Russians. If not, then you are just crazy.
     
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    Aren't the majority of Crimean people ethnic RUSSIANS? I suspect that's the reason they voted overwhelmingly to reunify with Russia.

    I also suspect that the reason the "armed green men" you refer to were present, was to provide security for the voting process and prevent any disruption.
     
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