The Kochs are abandoning the GOP's Crackpot Xenophobes

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  1. garyd

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    But of course unskilled labor equals lower wages for unskilled workers and an incidental lowering of wages for .

    And of course trump isn't referring to all immigrants but members of the exceptionally vicious and brutal MS-13 certainly qualify.
     
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  2. Natty Bumpo

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    "I'm very highly educated!
    I know words, I know the best words!"
    Clearly, since the strutting human lexicon has continually categorizes Black people, Hispanic people, and Muslim people, but never White people, as "animals!", his selective usage is precise and deliberate.

     
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    Your inability to honestly address the question, "Why has Trump continually referred to Black people, Hispanic people, and Muslim people as 'animals' but never a White person, no matter how heinous his deeds?" is noted.

    Rather than contrive desperate diversions when you loathe honestly answering a simple question, please initiate a thread that addresses whatever alternative topic you try to substitute.
     
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    Funny that you fell for the false clickbait. You really want to defend MS-13?
     
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    Pathetic claims like this are so laughingly funny. The perps spreading these lies don't understand how much they contribute to their own marginalization. People generally pay attention to reasoned and rational arguments. Claims like this are simply entertainment.

    When out of context, gross misrepresentations, are spewed by obsessed ideologues, fed by the liberal MSM outlets simply seeking to profit from their gullibility, it becomes so easy to just ignore.

    For those who aren't driven by bigotry, a transcript of the meeting and resulting comments is easily available.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-trump-california-sanctuary-state-roundtable/


    SHERIFF MIMS: It’s a disgrace.

    THE PRESIDENT: And we’re suing on that, and we’re working hard, and I think it will all come together, because people want it to come together. It’s so ridiculous. The concept that we’re even talking about is ridiculous. We’ll take care of it, Margaret. We’ll win.

    SHERIFF MIMS: Thank you. There could be an MS-13 member I know about — if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it.

    THE PRESIDENT: We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals. And we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It’s crazy.​
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

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    This is a textbook case of how dehumanizing and racist rhetoric works,” Sanchez wrote. “The question references a hypothetical MS-13 member. Trump immediately pivots to a vaguer ‘people trying to come into the country’ who we’re ‘taking out.’ The point of that move is precisely to conflate groups: ‘people trying to come in’ —> gang members —> ‘not people, animals.’ Spend five minutes on any racist message board and you’ll find a dozen instances of the trope.”​


    That Trump, over a span of decades, has continually labeled Black people, Hispanic people, Muslim people, but never even one White American, no matter how depraved his actions, an "animal!" is revelatory.
     
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    You have been captured by biased clickbait and you are loving it.
     
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    BS alt-left rhetoric designed to keep the gullible entranced with the dog whistles they are trained to bark at.

    Such responses may get the well trained to respond, but outside that bubble, it's nothing but entertainment to those amazed by such displays.
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

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    You appear to be incapable of contriving a credible explanation as to why Trump, over a span of decades, has continually labeled Black people, Hispanic people, Muslim people, but never even one White American, no matter how depraved his actions, an "animal!"

    Of course, if you could document his ever applying his oft-used dehumanizing term to anyone who is White, that would contradict the racist trope noted in the article.
     
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    You've failed to prove he has done what you say.

    Instead, you rely on dog whistle rhetoric being fed to you.

    The transcripts proves the BS presented in the OP is a total misrepresentation of facts. Personally, I think referring to MS 13 gang members as animals is a compliment. I'd use a less complimentary description.

    However, the hateful liberal media uses out of context BS to lie and manipulate, and they count on their target audience to spread these lies in order to increase revenue. How many people on this site alone have clicked on the link to read their out of context BS?

    I'm constantly amazed at how willing people are to buy into it. Why they can't see they are being led by the nose is a mystery to me.
     
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    "ANIMALS!"

    This is a textbook case of how dehumanizing and racist rhetoric works,” Sanchez wrote. “The question references a hypothetical MS-13 member. Trump immediately pivots to a vaguer ‘people trying to come into the country’ who we’re ‘taking out.’ The point of that move is precisely to conflate groups: ‘people trying to come in’ —> gang members —> ‘not people, animals.’ Spend five minutes on any racist message board and you’ll find a dozen instances of the trope.”


    The Kochs are breaking with the xenophobes to support the majority of Americans on this one.

     
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    People who don't care about each other get married all the time

    yeah, but illegal immigration is a completely petty civil offense, and just because FOX news shows you every time an illegal immigrant does something bad doesn't mean they're actually disproportionately bad
     
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    Sure, in your nothing but race race race mind . Meanwhile life goes on.
     
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    FAKE news . You like the rest of the MSM trolls are not honest . You must be a Obama supporter. Trying to find an honest one . Check you off the list.
     
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    You are asking me a question that suggests I have the ability to read Trump's mind or subconscious mind. I can't do that. Suggest someone should ask Trump a direct question like "was the Vegas shooter an animal" or was Charles Manson, Ted Buday or the BTK killer an animal?
    Then you'll have your answer.

    So I tried to answer your question. Now please answer these: 1)Why do you think the MS-13 members do not deserve to be called animals? 2) Why have you not posted any condemnation of the left calling LEO "pigs" or Kaepernick wearing socks illustrating cops as pigs?
     
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    That has nothing to do with my question.



    What is a petty civil offense?

    Nobody said they were largely bad so thus is a strawman.
     
  19. Natty Bumpo

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    Trump’s sniveling about "rapists!", "criminals!", "animals!", and "sh¡thole nations!” has not crushed Americans’ positive attitude toward immigrants, nor America's proud self-image as a receptive refuge for the world's tired, poor, huddled masses, the homeless and tempest-tossed. In fact, his xenophobic raving seems to have instilled a greater respect for those yearning free.

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    Decency prevails!

     
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    Natty Bumpo said:

    "We have people coming into the country — or trying to come in,
    we're stopping a lot of them — but we're taking people out of the country, you wouldn't believe how bad these people are.
    These aren't people. These are animals!"

    While I think as much of a Bumpo opinion as I do of a dung beetle, It seems that any readers blundering into his rolling workpiece should know that the "animals" comment from a Trump address was speaking of the MS-13 gang members infiltrating into the US illegally. I can't quite agree- those people are more dangerous than animals, have far less in the way of a values system as well. Calling them animals is giving them more respect than they deserve.
     
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    This is a textbook case of how dehumanizing and racist rhetoric works,” Sanchez wrote. “The question references a hypothetical MS-13 member. Trump immediately pivots to a vaguer ‘people trying to come into the country’ who we’re ‘taking out.’ The point of that move is precisely to conflate groups: ‘people trying to come in’ —> gang members —> ‘not people, animals.’ Spend five minutes on any racist message board and you’ll find a dozen instances of the trope.”https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/17/trumps-long-history-of-referring-to-nonwhite-criminals-as-animals/?utm_term=.b0240684d6d5
    As a matter of record, Trump has continually referred to Blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims as "animals", never a White Christian person, no matter how heinous his depravity. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-criminals-as-animals/?utm_term=.77e68ebaff6b)

    His xenophobic initiatives against legal immigrants and legitimate asylum-seekers are also well-documented.
     
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    ONLY in the imagination of the Bumpo Bug.
     
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    Xenophobe: anyone who opposes the entry of illegal aliens with tuberculosis or ties to MS-13.
     
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    Natty, and other members of the dumber than a sack of hammers Left would call him a "misunderstood undocumented immigrant, probably a DREAMer", rather than the sick scumbag that he is.
     
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    Actually, that's Bumpo's definition, which you state well.
    The real definition is
    Xenophobia is the fear and distrust of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange.
    Thus, it would be reasonable to have a Bumpo Xenophobia as well.
     

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