Nordstream 2 pipeline construction continues - Germany denies Trumps demands

So you would have let Hitler goble up one country at a time as he systematically killed every Jew in Europe or is the genocide just what we have been "fed" too?

 

Bullshit. There was not even an intention to kill the jews. The plan was to ship them to Madagascar. The war made it impossible.


What bulshit do you learn over there about us? Do they actually teach you that all germans should have been killed?

 

Germany had no right to Danzig. Its not relevant what Germans may want. They lost the right to Danzig by losing the war and signing Danzig away in accordance with the terms of the 1919 Treaty of Versailles. Why should anyone compromise with them?

 

Just like the Anti-Semitic card.
For some reason they feel that we should be forever thankful just to them. Don't know if I should bow down or something when meeting an American.

 

I learned the ebst way to deal with those is to show absolute disrespect and act like you are disgusted by their existence.

Most are so shocked it shatters them

 

Danzig was a German city inhabitated with only German people

 

That's not really relevant. Germany lost the war and signed away the right to govern Danzig. Germany has no longer any right to Danzig. Perhaps you would have preferred the first war continue a little longer to see if you could win?

 

What else do you think WW II was all about?

 

It only confirmed what the first war showed.

My point was if the first war would have continued into 1919 all of Germany would have been occupied just as it was at the end of WW2.

 

You really don't know very much about the Second World War and why it got started.

 

okay this is your chance to shine tell me what I got wrong about WW2 and why it got started. Make sure you quote me.

 

You have no clue about what you talk about.

The german border in 2018



As for WW I, we already had won in the east and in the west would have had a peace soon as well.

The UK and French were stupid. They tried to humilate us. What did they get? Total destruction of europe.

Was it worth it?

And what did they achieve? Germany is the hegemon of Europe today. The very thing they tried to prevent.

And no, it does matter. I have family who has roots in Danzig. They were cut off from the world. The polish harassed at extreme levels. Danzig was German and i assure you, it will be German again.

 

Nonsense Germany was starving. All your allies had fallen. Your Kaiser had fled to Holland. The red banner was being waved in many cities. The kaiserliche marine was in mutiny. The German army was melting away. The British, French and American armies were rushing towards Germany. It was only a matter of time before they would march into Berlin. It was a terrible time for Germany. Do they not teach this in your schools? Or do you buy into the Jews and Reds stabbed you in the back story?

Danzig will never be German again unless you want Germany to get a third ass-kicking. Next time you won't come back from it.

 

You don't seem to understand what it was about. You have misconceptions that you have to shake loose first. It was the un-just conditions of post-WW I that was the cause of the next war.

Okay .....

This is your misconception that is making it difficult for you to grasp the fundamental start of the Second World War. Your basis of understanding is wrong. You need to ask yourself why the German population voted for Hitler and what it was he stood for that made his movement popular. So?

 

Never is a long time. We already rule europe. Who knows what the future brings. Half of my family comes from there. I never was there but see it as part of my home. The poles are scared of us and they should be. I want back what is ours and i dont think some random internet troll can judge that.

Evryone deserves his home.

 

So now the extermination camps were our fault. Unbelievable.

 

Its not your home. Its not yours. Its not part of Germany. Its part of Poland. You lost it and it ain't coming back.

Very interesting, we hardly ever see this kind of antique revanchism anymore. Here is the bottom line, young man, Germany is like the Arabs. You start wars you cannot possibly win, lose the wars in spectacular fashion then spend the next 30 years whining like old women because you got the hell beat out of you. Now you seem to want another beating. Do you not know that you will get exactly that? Only next time if there is a next time, Germany will erased from the map of the world just like Byzantium. You will only be a bad memory and a cautionary tale for those to come. Grow up.

 

If you are from USA then you have as much blame for the camps as we do. You sold the holerith machines that made the holocaust possible. American industrialists supportrd it even im 1945.

But you know what? I give a **** about this. Im young. It doesnt bother me

 

There are millions like me and we are organized in groups and politics.

Who are you to tell me i have no home? My grandmother told me evrything about that place. I even was able to spot her house at google maps. I feel connected to that. I would like to be there. To know where half my family came from.

 

I do not accept your premise that Germany under Hitler had any such aspirations in the early stages of the world war. What they wanted was control over eastern territories that were historically and ethnically German. Specifically, they wanted Danzig back from Poland. Now, one can argue whether or not Germany was "right" to make such a demand on Poland, but what one cannot argue was Poland's ability to defend their claim to Danzig. Clearly they could not. But despite the fact that Poland had no way to actually defend their claim, they remained obstinate even to the point of belligerence. Does that sound intelligent to you? If you found a wallet on the ground and Mike Tyson told you it was his wallet, would you tell him to shut his mouth? Or would you do the far more intelligent thing and simply hand him the wallet, which wasn't really yours anyway? Why was it worth the lives of millions of people to protect Poland's dubious claim to the city of Danzig? Can you explain that to me?

 

Are you a neo-Nazi then, Sobo? Some sort of rightwing extremist? Do you hate Jews and Turks?

Okay, go to the station, get a ticket to Gdansk because there is no longer Danzig, look around at the signs in Polish. Listen to the people speaking Polish. There are very few Germans in Gdansk now. You are living in the past with your old grannie. The past was bad because Germany was a very bad place. You might think you want that past but really you don't.

 

Poland had no "right" to Danzig either. And the people who lived in Danzig sided with Germany. But let's put aside all the legal and moral considerations for the sake of argument and look at the situation from a purely practical standpoint. The reason why Poland should have compromised with Germany over Danzig is painfully obvious: Germany was much, much stronger than Poland. As such, Poland had no ability to defend its dubious claim on the city of Danzig. Poland's defiance of Germany resulted in Poland being invaded, carved up, and occupied for decades. Do you actually believe Poland's claim on the city of Danzig was worth all that trouble?

 

Poland didn't own Danzig, it was a Free City. Germany agreed to this in the Versailles Treaty of 1919. There for Germany gave up its claim to Danzig.

You think you are being practical do you? Well how did that work out for Germany? Look at a map. Do you see anything that says Danzig? Germany let its big mouth overload its narrow ass to put it bluntly.

 

You don't rule anything. Every European country that isn't getting a handout from Germany hates Germany. Actually everyone in Europe hates everyone else in Europe. It is embedded, they have always hated and mistrusted each other. With good reason. Your army is puny, you have no navy, your air force is a joke. You are incapable of even defending yourself let alone conquering anyone. Even if you wanted to build a military you couldn't because you are already taxed to the limit. You also have no military industries. You have no aircraft or arms manufacturers. The European Union is in serious trouble. The parasites will soon drag it down. Britain has already cut ties. The Muslim world is dumping all their displaced, uneducated, low-lifes into your country. Your leader is welcoming them and your taxes are supporting them. Your population is among the oldest in the world. Soon young native Germans will be in the minority. You should light a candle everyday for NATO. Without it Russia would take it's 3.4 million man army, crush your measly 200,000 man army and make the whole of Germany their bitch.

 

Germany is a great place and poland a 3rd world shithole we look down to. Their poverty and low living standards amuse me. I give a **** about jews and turks. We dont have any in my state Thüringen.