The Impossible Photo

Oh please. You posted the story where he was shot and then cremated. Now you make another contrary allegation without any supporting evidence. Do you have any, or should I just forget about that?

If it is your preference to believe any corporate media in the Five Eyes these days, that's your choice. My experience is that they all lie with the same aplomb as politicians. Sometimes even more blatantly, I think. A curse on all their houses, I say.

You didn't answer my question about why you introduced the WWII Nazi crematoria scene into this thread?

 

Well, there you are.

 

Well it was announced about 8 weeks ago in a BBC tv news broadcast so I'm afraid I can't help you. Or at least I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time searching through the BBC iplayer to find the specific newscast.

Edit: I've just had a thought - if there was just the one perfume bottle (which presumably the 'assassins' abandoned on their way out of Salisbury because it had served it's purpose on Skripal's doorknob?) what would be the chances of Sturgess and Rowley stumbling upon it? I'd reckon 1 in ten million.

 

I was hooked on it mate - I used to wish that I were Glasshopper so I could go out and clean up the mean streets of where I was living at the time.

I meant the details of the post I was replying to, which just shows the poster's name, post serial number, and member's personal number all enclosed in the square brackets. No criticism intended.)

 

It was just one perfume bottle, not 100. As for the odds, it is the same chance as Jack & Jill stumbling upon it. Then multiply that chance by the thousands of Jacks & Jills and it becomes a certainty that a random couple will stumble across the discarded bottle.

 

Quite so, and in a city the size of Salisbury, by some extraordinary chance they found it? Any other Jack and Jill would have simply ignored it, but this Jack and Jill sniffed the contents until it was empty.

 

You are misunderstanding statistics. If the targets were the couple then the probability of that couple picking up the bottle will be extremely unlikely. But it could have been any couple. And you only heard of this couple because they did sniff the bottle. The more similar events the greater chance that one random couple will sniff the bottle,

It's a bit like the probability of two people having the same birthday in a group of 23 people is 50:50

 

Yes, the right wing press. I am struggling to find even one that supports Trump, for instance.
When Trump actually (or accidentally) gets something right no-one reports it. Why?
I mentioned the Nazis because the Russians aren't far from being like them these days. But
still supported by the same Western political class which claimed they supported the Marxist
Leninist Soviet Union.

 

I greatly enjoyed it too and eagerly anticipated every episode. In those days I was already training in Chinese martial arts and eventually went on to teach them too.

But the only thing I ever managed to do was clean-up El Vino's!!

 

Maybe you should begin reading more recntl well researched history and stop digesting what the media shovel, imo.

Liking today's Russia to the Nazis is like throwing petrol on a bonfire, mate. There are some Russian members of this forum. They'd probably point out that it was the Soviet Union that fundamentally led to the defeat of the Nazis at a terrible cost to them in lives (up to 40 million I seem to recall, although estimates still vary) with the battle of Stalingrad and later the great tank battle at Kursk.

And Bolshevism probably wouldn't have succeeded anyway and taken root without the Brits and Americans financing and supporting them in their infancy. Ditto Hitler too.

Duplicity and divide and conquer are the ways of empire.

https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2014/06/15/the-secret-elite-1-who-they-were/

This website is well worth reading to obtain a broader reality, I think.

 

Sound's like a Zionist mischief to me.......

 

It sounds like you don't understand a simple truth. I can believe US politicians are lying, untrustworthy scumbags completely independent of anything Putin says or does. And you know why that is? Because they ARE lying, untrustworthy scumbags. They lie to Americans about almost everything of any importance, from drug policy to foreign policy to healthcare policy. It's nothing but lie after monstrous lie meant to conceal their corruption. And like all lying frauds, US politicians rely heavily on misdirection to distract people from their own bad behavior. Putin serves as the newest and shiniest distraction in a long line of distractions. Millions of Americans, instead of focusing on our own problems, are obsessing over a litany of irrelevancies, which is exactly where the lying politicians want them. Go ahead and name one thing I just said that is untrue, if you can.

 

Beautifully put Ethereal.

Sadly, for many here, it's wasted. They don't want to know. As Plato noted, they're trapped gawping at the shadows cast on the cave walls by the night-time fire as the puppet-masters move around the stage, rather than deducing the true origin of the shadows are the puppeteers.

 

Certainly some of them fit that description, but most of the people who come to this forum and defend the indefensible work in or with government in some capacity. They are not here to argue their principles (they have none), but their wallets. One way or another, many of them profit from US imperialism. Which is ironic, seeing as how they love to accuse other posters of working for the Kremlin. Psychologists would refer to such behavior as "projection".

 

I have no problems with what you wrote only it should be BRITISH lying, untrustworthy scumbag..........etc', maybe you're in Auto mode, is your rage still relevant to the Brits ?

 

The Americans held the investigation ? good for the British left, once again escaped responsibility by blaming others hijacking their Gov. poor poor you.....

 

The same logic applies, although my "rage" is directed mostly at the US government since they're the ones lying to me and ripping me off.

 

I'm just talking about the motivations of many who post here. Lots of them work in or with the government sector in some way. And that is why they're so sensitive towards criticisms of the government.

Anyway, it should be rather obvious that the situation in Britain is heavily influenced by the political situation in the US, no? Or do you see the two as being unrelated?

 

They packed two jackets & pants each, why not two pairs of shoes?

Have a look at the photos. Ever walked down a telescoping jetway so narrow only one person at a time could go through? If you go through the photos at this link you will see the lanes where the photos were taken.

 

Oh I agree there are "agents" here but not many from the Righty camp I suspect, not nearly as prepared as those from the Russian-Left wing of the forum, I qualify any activist that dedicated his life to some agenda as an "agent" because both of them are trying to "sell" something to me and none is objective - that is, have an interest not to understand and keep an open mind.

Or in any Democracy that has Left and Right parties, but in this case the rage should be directed at British Right and it escaped you so I'm a bit confused from you're objectivity.

 

This thread was started with a piece of third rate pro-Putin propaganda produced by a man in such a rush to tell everyone that the photos were faked that he didn't bother to look at them carefully. Neither, of course, did Striped Horse. Guess he was in a rush to somehow link this to fictional 'regime change' in Syria. Even when the glaring inaccuracies in the original story were pointed out the author and Stripey doubled down. Neither had the common decency to do their due diligence & neither have the common decency to admit they were wrong.

Now the two Russians in the photos have spoken to the media. They were in the UK when the UK government said they were, and they went to the places the UK Government said they did. Guess that drives a train through all the claims of 'faked photos' etc. I won't go back through the thread and did up every poster who fell for such an obvious lie, but no one will be surprised at who they are. A smart person might learn from being taken in by such an obviously poor conspiracy theory.

Oh, the two Russians made up some **** & bull story about going to visit Stonehenge & not making it because the weather was bad. I look forward to Stripey bringing us the next piece of propaganda from Mr Murray or someone similar breathlessly accepting every word as the gospel truth. One of the rules of Conspiracy World is that you are never wrong. Ever. Watching all the usual suspects lap it up will be even funnier.

 

The only thing that I was so surprised at was the level of incompetency of the assassination attempt by government agents. The attempt was so poorly carried out I struggled to believe that a country could be involved in it. Their alibi is laughable - for a start I doubt that anyone in Russia has even heard of Salisbury and no one would make a 4000 mile round trip to go on a special tourist visit there

 

I don't know about you, but I'm always looking for new places 3,000 miles away where I can spend a couple of days to see a few tourist attractions in the middle of winter

 

What an exercise in mind bending fallacious nonsense. This denial and thought avoidance reflex is not your friend.