Kosovo Forces Seize Serbian Village - War Brews As Serbian Army Mobilizes

Last time I checked, the US got a system called democracy where the majority gets to rule by making the law.

you go find me where the GC are violating the constitution.

 

I am way more educated than you but that is beside the point. The point was that Turkey is a State Sponsor of Terror - more so than Serbia.

Your conflation of Serbia activities as on par with the with the global activities of Russia is nonsense.

 

The Albanians are similar to the Southern Italians in petty thievery. When the Greeks deported an Albanian criminal, they were issued new passports and they would be back again. The problem was not that they robbed the elderly when they cashed their SS checks, it's that they killed them as well for no reason. Golden Dawn was formed as a volunteer group to help guard them.

Their big crimes though aren't drugs, it's the human trafficking, and killing people for their organs. I'm not condemning all the Albanians though. The majority are good workers and they were welcome in Greece when the economy warranted it.

 

You're funny! You do know that Fidan, who is the head of MIT (Turkish Intelligence) and also Erdogan's most trusted friend, has been a known terrorist and a member of Al Queda since 2012? But then again do you care, since you glory in such things?

When Fidan paid a visit to Obama with Erdogan, the President wouldn't turn around to look at him. When he finally did, he said: "Don't think that we don't know what you're up to."

 

You do know there was no genocide in Kosovo, and that Miloshevik was found innocent of any wrong doing? Everything that was being said was a lie so Washington and Germany could break up Yugoslavia.

They all lived peacefully and well in Yugoslavia under Tito, but plans were made up by Germany and the US to break up Yugoslavia into ethnic and religious states after his death. This would weaken them so they could be more easily controlled. This is what they want to do in Syria as well, and why Washington does not want peace if Syria remains intact.

As for Kosovo, KLA was an Albanian terrorist group, and Miloshevik had an obligation as the President of Yugoslavia to protect the Serbs who were targeted and being forced to leave. Anyway there is a lot of bad blood going back to the Croatian and Bosnian affiliation with Nazi Germany and what the Serbs suffered under the Ustashe regime - so it didn't take much for Washington to reignite the animosities.

 

That's not true and you know it, repeating it will not change facts.

Short after Tito's death the ruptures in the Yugoslavian society became evident, there was no foreign input needed.

All Balkan countries have targeted membership of the EU and they will settle their disputes on this way. Discussing Balkan politics based on some weird Russian propaganda news is just a waste of time. Russia needs unstable countries to have international influence because Russia isn't able to have a positiv influence on other countries. Russia has nothing to offer concerning economic, cultural or humanistic questions.

 

You are diverting the main theme of the discussion and steering away because you know you have lost many discussions to me. The reason for that is you have poor knowledge and very weak reasoning, just as the likes of you posting Russian propaganda here. You are not educated at all.

The subject matter:
Russia and Serbia massacred thousands of Bosnians. Russia alone killed many millions during before and post WW. Russia is also guilty of killing innocent children, women and teens just to take out few terrorists.

 

Do you have any evidence to prove that the head of Turkish intelligence (MIT) has been a member of Al Qaeda?
I'd like to be educated on that to be honest...
Thanks...
Regards,
Fidan.

 

Don't quote the poster you are supposed to be addressing this, made up something like Miloshevik for Slobodan Milošević.
And you're referencing tito? What's up?
I'm very much related to Macedonia and I know what happened in Yugoslavia during Tito. You should not talk about things you don't know. People have suffered a lot.

 

Why would Albanians choose a bankrupt 3rd world country like Greece to work? Plus they wouldn't be able to make a dime given the most are uneducated and not even speaking Greek? If you are not a famous surgeon or academic who doesn't speak Greek, there's actually no way you are accepted to the Greek society, nor could you have made over 2500 euros as a regular qualified immigrant.
They got 800 median for the mid-class... That's like strip club tip money for average German midclass...
You need to learn more about Balkans unless you want to keep spreading BS.

 

The Albanians left Greece about 8 years ago when the economy faltered and construction workers weren't needed. Twenty years ago, Athens was known as the safest city in Europe. With the influx of Albanians mostly - as well as Pakistani's and others, every door in Athens had 5 bolt locks and every window had iron shutters no matter how high up they were.

In the suburbs there were even homes surrounded by barbed wire because they feared for their lives. Anyway I know what I'm talking about, I have an apartment there.

 

Those wacky Balkans are always trying to start trouble. Hopefully the rest of the world has learned its lesson by now not to let them spark any more greater conflicts. Just build a WALL around them and let them wear themselves out.

 

I have never lost a discussion to you .. and you going on a demonization rant is not helping your credibility and constitutes and argument for zero.

Since when was Russia's actions in WW2 the topic ? What a joke. Both sides during WW2 killed innocent children and yes Russia was one of the worst but I have never said otherwise. What does this have to do with Serbia ?

The topic is Kosovo. I am well aware of the war in Yugoslavia and that there were some nasty deeds on both sides. The Serbs being the more powerful side getting having a higher number of kills (the same is true of the Israel/Plalestinian conflict).

Since the end of the war in Yugoslavia the Albanians have been persecuting the Serbs. It is a criminal state that is becoming a fertile ground for Islamist extremism.

 

I came across some facts last week about Fidan's Al Queda links, but I can't book mark everything so I didn't link it. It does seem logical though when one considers Turkeys relationship with Al Nusra. Nor can I link Fidan's visit to Obama with Erdogan which occurred about 4 or 5 years ago. I do recall though that Obama was very cold to him and said that Washington knows everything he's up to..

 

Correct described. People tend to forget that Albanians(KLA) conducted terrorist insurgency long before the war in 1999. And was labeled as terrorist by CIA just because of that.
I could only imagine what would happen in America if Mexicans started to assassinate Police officers and organize terrorist cells while in the same time being funded by a 3rd party.

I would imagine the outcome would have been the same.

 

Goody - I went to google and found this on Fidan's affiliation with Al Nusra.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45503.htm

 

You're funny! As if you don't know that Washington and the ones who control it, didn't break up Yugoslavia in order to weaken it and maintain control, and that they aren't trying to do the same thing to Syria for the same reason. Give it up!

 

Why are you saying this? Russia is not the one that firebombed the cities in Germany? A translator at the Nurenburg trials said they were held there, since it was the only building left in Germany. She also said they were held over 20 thousand dead bodies. Wouldn't the dead there and in Dresden, Berlin, etc., be children and elderly?

 

Exactly - look at how many protesters the IDF has killed - (including journalists and other non combatants).

How many civilians did we kill when we bombed Raqqa ? How many are being killed in Yemen- not just from war crimes but from the blockade and humanitarian crisis.

How many died in Syria due to using Al Qaeda, ISIS and other Islamist Jihadists as a proxy army. This is a massive pot calling a miniature kettle black - and ignoring what the other side did.

 

Russia killed many non combatants in WW2 and did nasty things in Eastern Europe. This is not some big secret.

 

Of course you do not know what you are talking about. I have been to Athens many times. First was in 1992. I was having a nice vacation until I found out about the family who flew there and stayed at the same hotel with me had been robbed. They wanted my help because they didn't speak English or Greek. We went to the police station and guess what? It took a day for them to find an official that could speak proper English and help us. The officer listened for a minute and gave us a paper because he couldn't even understand English. He said he would get it translated and then would call us back. He never did. Thanks to Macedonian ambassador, he took care of the family and gave them papers for their stolen passports so they could enter Macedonia with no problem. Greece is what Trump has described as a 3rd world s.t hole.
One more thing; drahmi will soon be considered as the Greek currency, which will add higher inflation, unemployment and crime rates on top of the existing horrible situation. Then Athens, the city of ugly concrete buildings, will have no difference then Bangladesh, only they are producing and working more for even much less.

 

Turks did not have Iranian jihadists to get the support of; nor did they have vast reserves like Kazakhstan, Chechnya or Daghistan to pick from, then train, pack, send and arm to fight in Syria on behalf as proxy.
Kurds were not even an option and even if they were they were taken already by the US.
They did not have political or military power Israel has because they did not have the cause that it would take. So they did not get to eliminate the threats as easy as Israel did.

Turks had few thousands of Turkmen from within and around Syria (Iraq and Iran mostly) but they were not enough. They had to intervene this way or the other because they had serious security concerns about what was going on just off of their borders. I think they did the best they could and eventually managed to get the Russian support to balance the US pressure (or US independency), although that made Russia to pay a hell of labor and equipment for dragging to approve Turkish entry to Syria, but at the end of the day we learn from our mistakes don't we jiji? Lol.
In the final analysis, they don't have the most legit proxies, but again, they did not have a choice but to compromise some terrorist factions and convert them to FSA.

 

I don't now what you're talking about, because everyone in Greece speaks English - and they always did - unless you were in Thrace in some back water Turkish village. So stop the garbage, you're convincing no one.

By the way, my family came back two weeks ago from a wedding in Paros. It was held in an enormous church built by the Emperor Constantine in the 4th century, and the whole village was closed off for the reception. Enjoy the photos.
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It's also obvious that you are not related to Greece. Mana Su Muni is the church built by the great Constantyn and that is not even in Athens.
I think you don't even have a clue of what you're reading too because I clearly stated what I experienced in Athens in 92, with a family from Macedonian city, Skopje. Even the cops did not speak no English and when they found out we came from Macedonia (the lost passports) their already bad attitude worsened.
Again I liked the vacation to Athens untill that incident. Your shutterstock photos are irrelevant.
I have not been to Thrace anytime in my life. Turks of Thrace are ignorant and religious and haven't been able to integrated to the Greek society but that doesn't change the fact that they are how they are because of the long time oppression by Greek governments.

 

Of course their bad attitude worsened towards you, when you and your friends go around claiming they are Greek Macedonians when they're not? They speak Slavic for heavens sake not Greek, and they came into the area in the 6th century. But the Skopians will say anything to expand Islam, and lay claims to the heritage and lands which are not theirs.

Anyway the pseudo Slavic/Bulgarian country of 'Macedonia' will not be around for too long. I give it two years.

Uhhh, I have news for you, but the island of Paros is not in Athens, nor are the other 20 thousand plus islands. The name of the Church is Panaghia Ekatontapiliani. Constantine's mother Saint Helen stopped at Paros on her way back from Jerusalem, and had her son build a Church there. It's pretty isn't it?

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