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"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by 3link, Nov 11, 2018.

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  1. Liberty Monkey

    Liberty Monkey Well-Known Member

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    Tax fat people more like we do smokers and drinkers.
     
    Liberty Monkey, Nov 23, 2018
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  2. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Did you miss the point that the government would pick up all the payments you are talking about. So you want to tax the public an additional amount equal to what the population pays for health insurance? That amount was about the same as all the taxes collected by the federal government. That is why tiresome republicans ask the question.
     
    fmw, Nov 23, 2018
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  3. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    No. A right doesn't require anybody to give anything up in order to have it. Freedom of speech, as an example is a right. Nobody pays for it. Health care is a privilege. It is an important one. The only things that truly matter in life are family and health becuase they are irreplaceable..
     
    fmw, Nov 23, 2018
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  4. Liberty Monkey

    Liberty Monkey Well-Known Member

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    Tax the fatty boomba latta's.
     
    Liberty Monkey, Nov 23, 2018
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  5. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    You have the right to pay the same premium as me
     
    squidward, Nov 23, 2018
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  6. ronv

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    Are you aware the US public is currently spending 3.3 trillion plus on healthcare?
     
    ronv, Nov 23, 2018
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  7. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Get rid of all but catastrophic insurance.
    Prices always adjust to what the customer can afford. No customers, no business
     
    squidward, Nov 23, 2018
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  8. fmw

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    Of course I'm aware. That is why I posted what I posted.
     
    fmw, Nov 23, 2018
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  9. ronv

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    So why do you think new taxes are required?
     
    ronv, Nov 23, 2018
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  10. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On this we agree........
    and there is even more to the formula:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-president-trump-quite-libertarian.544916/

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy

     
    DennisTate, Nov 23, 2018
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  11. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Human right.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  12. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Health care = Human right
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  13. squidward

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    Rights are inherent to the individual. They do not involve someone else's property being given to you
     
    squidward, Nov 23, 2018
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  14. Belch

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    You're butting up against the usual lefty notion that rights only come from the government. They don't believe in negative rights.
     
    Belch, Nov 23, 2018
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    Sort of. Not happening.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  16. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Naw. Makes no sense.

    Health care -> Human right
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  17. Belch

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    I'm sure it doesn't make any sense to you, which is why I pointed out to squidward that he's not going to get anywhere talking about negative rights to you. You really truly don't get the entire concept.
     
    Belch, Nov 23, 2018
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  18. Antiduopolist

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    The concept to get?

    Health care is a basic human right.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  19. Belch

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    I guess if you can put your own bandaids on, then you've got a point. For more difficult health care, there's always self surgery.
     
    Belch, Nov 23, 2018
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  20. squidward

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    What do you owe them if they owe you something?
     
    squidward, Nov 23, 2018
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  21. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    No, it's your personal human want.
    Go acquire it yourself.
     
    squidward, Nov 23, 2018
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  22. Antiduopolist

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    Huh?
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  23. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    ^ Compassionate conservatism.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 23, 2018
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  24. fmw

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    Repeating it doesn't make it correct. Sorry.
     
    fmw, Nov 24, 2018
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  25. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    It is cheaper than debt.
     
    fmw, Nov 24, 2018
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