Trump gets the last laugh on Macron with Paris burning after his rebuke of 'America First'

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  1. Jeannette

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    From what I read they want more taxes on the wealthy and less taxes and austerity on the poor. It has something to do with the 'ideologues' and the new world order - which is similar to the Soviet Union in its globalism and the elimination of nations. I know in Greece Brussels imposed austerity on the poor, and yet paid no attention to the millionaires - yet they knew that austerity will hinder the economy from growing.

    The reason they did this and caused the death and sufferings of tens of thousands, was to force Greece to sell its assets - which it's been forced to do. This is why the French are now protesting and saying they do not want to end up like Greece. Anyway let's see what's going to happen now with Italy, where there is a 20% unemployment rate with young people. Brussels insists on punishing them for going against the rules - and yet Germany has done it many times..


     
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    What has Trump been wrong about and should have backed down from IYO?
     
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    It's the globalist agenda in it's entirety.

    The French are rapidly learning what socialism really looks like in reality.

    No one has ever liked socialism except the dictator in charge.
     
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    Once again you ignore the carbon tax which started these protest.

    "On Tuesday, France delayed for six months a plan to raise already steep taxes on diesel fuel by 24 cents a gallon and gasoline by about 12 cents a gallon. Macron argued that the taxes were needed to curb climate change by weaning motorists off petroleum products, but violent demonstrations in the streets of Paris and other French cities forced him to backtrack — at least for now."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...e2f864d47e7_story.html?utm_term=.11eff3451ae3
     
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    From the demands I read, one was to give more assistance to the immigrants. So it's not racial.
     
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    Macron took away the tax, but I don't see the protests stopping - so there's a lot more going on then just that. Let's not forget the Washingtonpost is a liberal globalist newspaper. Right now there are snipers on the rooftops, and military in the streets - and it's not only in Paris. The protests are going on in quite a few cities in France. They are preparing for a very 'hot' weekend.

    The only thing that will stop the protests, is to have elections and for Macron to step down.
     
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    Read again. A riot..,,,,AND left-wing protest to oust Macron.

    Two things going on.

    You are correct, the violent rioters are not left-wing. They were organized by others, although it makes me wonder because among the reasons for the riots are cutting welfare benefits and labour protections, and that tends to suggest there are left-wingers among them.

    However, the politicians who demand Marcon to leave are left-wing.
     
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    Brussels is forcing all countries in the EU to accept more asylum seekers. Maybe if these nations didn't help destroy the countries the migrants came from, they wouldn't be entering the EU today. But then again destroying peoples heritage is part of the new world order. I also read that Macron attacked the church in France - I mean come on.

     
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    Everyone is demanding Macron leave, except his own party.

    All this means is that the right in France was correct, and that the left has realized that socialism and globalism sounds great until the reality sets in.
     
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    Are you aware that Macron has cut welfare benefits and unions? He didn't raise gas tax to fund social programs, but to advance a pro-business agenda. Of course they hate him. Who told you he is a socialist? Breitbart?
     
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    No, he cut welfare benefits for the French and raised them for non-citizen "immigrants".

    He raised the gas tax as part of the Paris accord in order to send the money to China and North Korea.
     
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    Who told you that?
     
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    Watch the video I posted twice.

    The tax is for the "global warming" agenda, which is the Paris accord. Did you read the Paris accord, how much money they said they would raise, and where that money would go?
     
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    Who told you he cut welfare benefits for the French to raise them for non-citizens?

    He is the most pro-business president they have had in decades.

     
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    MP Emmanuelle Ménard

    The socialist welfare woes in France didn't happen overnight either. Socialism has done what it always does: it runs out of other people's money.

    https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/welfare-lessons-france
     
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    It speaks to nationalism ala Trump
    That the French Gov't spend more effort taking care of the French people.

    Nationalism is good for :flagus: as well as our allies.


    What part is confusing?


    Moi :oldman:






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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Temporary at best.
     
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    He is wrong about his isolationistic policy.
     
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    Hello, there is a lot of mistakes about the yellow jacket. (I'm french).

    The yellow jackets aren't left-wing. It's slighty more right wing, but basically it's un political. They don't trust politician either right, left, far left or far right.

    There is people of every kind of political side in those riots, either far right or far left, there is peacefull people and antifas or thugs which take the opportunity to destroy things and loot.

    That movement wasn't organized by any worker union or political parti. The radical-right Marine Le Pen and radical-left Mélenchon both tried to act as if there were the spokeperson of the movement, they aren't.

    That's not a movement against migrants, ecological policies, or something really political.

    It's just a movement of people which have more and more difficulties to pay their bills and have a decent living and are tired and angry. That's a movement of people which doesn't trust anyone anymore, either the journalists, the politicians or the worker unions.

    That's kind of a spontaneous movement, which is the reason it's in a way new.
     
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    Link?

    Macron cut benefits because to save money. You guys are not making a whole lot of sense, and its probably because you think its some kind of protest against 'socialism'.
     
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    It is not ​
    confusing. The riots have nothing to do with nationalism. ​
     
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    Yes, that is what I have understood.

     
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    How is wanting better trade deals "isolationistic"?
     
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    The carbon tax was not taken away. It was put on hold for six months and France is not falling for that. I do agree there are other issues though and the carbon tax was the straw that broke the camels back and opened the flood gates.
     
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