REVEALED: Israel’s IDF Used Passenger Airliners as Cover During Christmas Day Attack <MOD WARNING>

Those eye witnesses gave their evidence just after it happened, not 50 years afterwards. You write nonsense

 

And all they say is typical war stuff.

 

And the U.S. government disregarded those accounts didn't they?

And please don't spout some nonsense like those two other conspiracy mongers in this thread about "Zionist influence".

 

- What other than "Zionist Influence" was the reason that LBJ recalled US Fighters from rescuing the Liberty not just once but twice and that he didn't care about the ship but wasn't going to embarrass our "ally"?

- What other than "Zionist Influence" caused the Liberty attack to be buried on page 4 of the NY Times the day after the betrayal?

- What other than "Zionist influence" allows Israel to receive more aid than any other country in the world in spite of the Symington-Glenn Amendment that prohibits any US aid to non signatories of the NPT?

- What other than "Zionist Influence" caused America to attack Iraq for Israel?
“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

- What other than "Zionist Influence" trumped the desires of 81% of loyal Americans.
"81% of Americans Oppose $38 Billion Pledge to Israel"
"Would redirect to caring for vets, education and lowering national debt"
https://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2016/09/19/81-americans-oppose-38-billion-pledge-israel/


I'll be glad to cite more examples of Zionist Influence over US policy making if you answer those listed above.

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Somebody needs a shrink.

 

1) As I've pointed out, U.S. aircraft reaching the Liberty was a mathematical impossibility so there was no point in sending them. Plus the first aircraft had nuclear weapons aboard as the carrier was conducting a nuclear weapons handling exercise when word came in about the Liberty. We've been over this before.

2) I have no idea about why the New York Times put the attack on page 4. Though it might have something to do with the Vietnam War raging at its most intense at that time with a couple of hundred of U.S. troops being killed WEEKLY.

3) The Camp David Accords. President Carter promised both Israel and Egypt certain levels of aid in return for them agreeing to make peace. Note that Egypt receives the 2nd most aid from the U.S. of any other nation.

4) The U.S. did not attack Iraq for Israel. The U.S. had multiple reasons for invading Iraq including Saddam Husseins continuing hostility to his neighbors and U.S. interests in the region, his resistance to weapons inspections and his continued attempts to shoot down U.S. and British aircraft over the no fly zones.

Case closed.

 

but but but... evil zionists!

 

Wait...The Zionists did it.
They really did...
really.


It was the Joooos.
They did everything.

 

It is an established fact that all 5 emergency frequencies on the Liberty were jammed.
It is a fact that only the Israelis & Americans knew the Liberty's frequencies and very unlikely that the Americans would jam their own radios.
It is a fact that the Israelis torpedoed the Liberty after the Israelis admit that they knew it was an American ship.
It is a fact that the Israelis strafed the lowered life rafts that were not destroyed by napalm.

If you insist on more evidence, the Israelis proudly display the bullet riddled life raft "...at Israel’s National Maritime Museum in Haifa. In Israel, those who participated in the attack are celebrated as national heroes."(1)


I believe you claimed to have studied this cowardly betrayal for "decades" yet most of what I have related over the last few days is commonly known by those who have & especially by Veterans of that era with appropriate clearance.
Additionally, American MSM's egregious pro Israel bias(2), (3) may be one reason so much of this information is new to you.



(1) "The Forgotten Sneak Attack"
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/09/the-forgotten-sneak-attack/
EXCERPT "The life raft taken by the Israeli torpedo boat and the wheel of the torpedo boat that succeeded in hitting Liberty are on display at Israel’s National Maritime Museum in Haifa. In Israel, those who participated in the attack are celebrated as national heroes."CONTINUED


(2) “Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/column...trong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416



(3) “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U


EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”CONTINUED

 

LOLOLOLOL

None of that is fact.

The Joooos did it.

 

Please provide ACTUAL FU**ING evidence of any of that. NOT 50 years old survivor accounts. NOT tales of "some guy at some agency said he saw some transcripts of some radio transmissions". Not some Israeli leader shooting off his mouth to a local nationalistic Israeli organization. (because I know you'll trot out a statement by Benjamin Netanyahu).

NOT a New York Times story. NOT a Chicago Tribune story.

I mean actual verified evidence which has been verified from independent sources.

You seem to assume that ANYTHING said by a Liberty crewman is the gospel truth of the events as they happened. There is no reason to accept those accounts beyond what they are. Accounts and memories of events during times of extreme pressure and imminent danger.

 

Not quite.

1. Why did LBJ declare that he recalled the rescue aircraft so as not to "embarrass an ally"?

2. You know exactly why the NY Times buried the Liberty attack on page four and no major & complete documentary has ever been featured in America's pro Israel MSM.

3. You're grabbing at straws again & evading why Israel still gets more aid than anyone in spite of the Symington-Glenn Amendment.
Americans want their $ Billions spent on America.
"81% of Americans Oppose $38 Billion Pledge to Israel"

"Would redirect to caring for vets, education and lowering national debt"

https://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2016/09/19/81-americans-oppose-38-billion-pledge-israel/



4. Please re-read the real reason Americans were "quietly" sent & remain in the volatile Mid East for Israel's regional hegemony.
Study PNAC and the Oded Yinon Plan which are not in US interests.
The same parasites that wanted America to fight Iraq are busily trying to manipulate the US into a war with Iran(1)

Netanyahu & his army of paid shills want America for one thing only:

Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html



(1) "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

 

I went to Grau's link and read all the information by his "source".

The "source" is an article written by a playwright.
Most of his material is the account by a single Russian language analyst who was aboard the Liberty only briefly prior to and during the attack.
Most of the Russian language analysts information is second and third hand from other crew members aboard the Liberty. Including the accounts of Israel trying to hide the marketings of their aircraft and the notorious account of the life rafts being machine gunned.

Does Grau really take this seriously as a "source"???!?!!

 

If it is against the jooooos, it must be real.

 

What you neglect to mention (and repeatedly have neglected to mention) was this was Netanyahu mouthing off to supporters at a campaign event. No actual evidence that it reflects actual views of Netanyahu or actual national policy.

 

I suspect LBJ was simply trying to bolster his administrations support among Jewish Americans who have historically been a major financial backer of the Democratic Party. I certainly don't take anything LBJ ever said at face value. Nor should you.

 

Here's a helpful link to the New York Sun archive. Please find the article and kindly post a link.
https://www.nysun.com/search/

I tried "Howard Kohr", "AIPAC", "Iraq", even words from the alleged quote. Nada.

 

"He was once overheard by a John Doe" is hardly evidence of anything. We're not even told where and when did the event happen, and what event was that.

Wayne Madsen, the author of the article Grau linked, a darling of globalresearch and Alex Jones, is a notorious conspiracy theorist.Truther and birther. Number 1919 on americanloons list.
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2017/11/1919-wayne-madsen.html

This is my favorite from the above site:
"unidentified former CIA agents are common sources of information among deranged people writing in CAPSLOCK on the Internet"

 

The fact is he said what he said.
Do you dismiss the contents of Hitler's speeches to supporters do you disregard his quotes as just Hitler mouthing off to supporters at a campaign event?
Of course not.

The rhetorical contortions you go through to excuse any and every proof of Israeli parasitism is astounding.

 

When are you going to post anything to support your devotion to Israel instead of complaining about my sources?

You can't refute the fact that a nearly demolished life raft from the USS Liberty is proudly on display at an Israel museum(1) honoring the IDF "heroes" who massacred American G.I.s is, again revealing.

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(1) "The Forgotten Sneak Attack"
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/09/the-forgotten-sneak-attack/

EXCERPT "The life raft taken by the Israeli torpedo boat and the wheel of the torpedo boat that succeeded in hitting Liberty are on display at Israel’s National Maritime Museum in Haifa. In Israel, those who participated in the attack are celebrated as national heroes."CONTINUED

 

Please quit lying or get your computer fixed:


"The Iraq war coverup: What did AIPAC do and when did it do it?"
https://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do-it/

EXCERPT "AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr’s statement to the New York Sun in January 2003 is even more revealing, as he acknowledged “‘quietly’ lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq” was one of “AIPAC’s successes over the past year.” And in a lengthy New Yorker profile of Steven J. Rosen, who was AIPAC’s policy director during the run-up to the Iraq war, Jeffrey Goldberg reported that “AIPAC lobbied Congress in favor of the Iraq war.” CONTINUED

 

I'm not insulting you sir, I am merely observing and commenting. Most conservatives are proud to stand by their words. We are all judged by our words and our deeds.

More, I am simply perplexed as I have ever been in my life as to why a man flying the US flag is so quick to believe the obvious lies of the government in Tel Aviv. I just don't understand how you can believe those known liars, even as you dismiss the consistent accounts of your fellow countrymen who were there.

Because of that odd behavior, I'm guessing you never served in the military. It doesn't really matter, but maybe it is a possible explanation.

This event was covered up for so long for a reason--our presumed ally Israel is no ally at all, and pulls some very strong strings in Washington.

 

Re:

Why is a Liberty crewman any less credible than your "war hero" father?

 

Russia just warned Israel about airstrikes on Syria.

 

Israel denied they did it for 13 years.. Were you around in 1967?