America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

Some properly shady mofos out there, for sure.

No worries, though, the authorities are on it.

 

That’s because “gun deaths” includes suicide. Which you well know.

We are talking about violence against others.

 

*shake head* That’s so disappointing to read.

Please define institutionalized racism for me.

 

Just curious. How is that any different or worse than the people at UNC Chapel Hill and Durham who forcefully tore down confederate statues against the law, in full view of officers, on video while chanting black power and racial slurs against whites?

At least the ones in your scenario will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law when found. Whereas the ones I’m talking about walked with no consequences even though they were on video committing a felony.

 

You mean the protest and protestors who were vilified before the protest even started? Solely because there was a group of about 40 racists there while there were over 300 people. But all of them were lumped in as being racists. Why? Because they didn’t want statues of their ancestors torn asunder.

But whites, unlike blacks, aren’t allowed to organize for that cause because if we do we are immediately and roundly declared as racist white supremacist bigots. For doing nothing more than supporting our heritage.

 

you know what it was silly

 

Yes, you have said that.
But actual data shows that to be hugely incorrect.

 

Traitors to the USA should not be memorialized in public.
If one wants to honor traitors, open a museum.

 

redlining and the after effects as a single point out of likely 100s

 

Obviously being oppressed by blacks and having suffered all the guns being taken and all the years in Fema camps starving in slave labor under Obama are the problemm. Yep a BLACK man is to blame, we should lynch blacks huh?

 

Uh huh.

What's your solution to this made up and misguided/racist problem?

 

Well gee, then obviously we need to disallow blacks to own guns, pro/erty and voting/holding public office, right? An IMMEDIATE and YUGE moratorium is called for YESTERDAY, right?

 

we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

 

You do realize, for this guy, KEEPING whites on top, while denying that is the case is top priority right?

 

Traitors? You mean the “Union”?

If you and I enter into and agreement and we both WILLFULLY sign a contract that defines our rights and responsibilities under said agreement.

Years later I come back and say, “You know what, I never liked this part of our agreement because I consider it to be immoral. As such I’m no longer going to uphold this portion of our contract whether you like it or not.” You respond and say, “That’s fine, if you want to unilaterally alter our agreement without my consent then I want out of our partnership.”

Who is the traitor? You or I? Is it the one who violates the contract and refuses to cease? Or the one who wants out of the partnership because the first party wouldn’t stop violating the contract?

If I then say, “No you’re not leaving our partnership and if I have to murder your men, women and children to stop you then that’s what I’m going to do.”

Who is in the right and who is in the wrong? Furthermore, if placed in that position would you not fight back?

 

!It's because liberal decadence FORCES them. Good conservatives eat with theheir gun barrelsd and snuggle with them in bed and nobody has as EVER been shot, except when it's a *** *******'s fault, CL:EARLY. ****in stupid *******. You can blame 192% of all gun crime on *******s and their faggy laws! LITERALLY AT LEAST 192%, probably more like 800% realistically. Ya ****in stupid 'murica hating lib democrat evildoers!

 

Yeah the war of Northern aggression agains the peaceful slaveholders. What a crime against humanity! We need to allow Slavery in the south IMMEDIATELY ahagin, all blacks should be owned. It's only fair right? Damn you're a ****ing loser racist moron BTW

 

Why didn’t you just say you have no clue what you’re talking about. It would have been as effective of a rebuttal as this nonsense.

I’ll just ignore the fact that you presented no cogent defense against any point made and I’ll just address the underlying propagandist BS that your position is based upon. That lie your position is predicated upon being that the South went to war in order to protect slavery.

The south did not go to war to protect slavery. They had no NEED to go to war to protect slavery. The north had already capitulated. It’s called the Corwin amendment. An amendment which would have ended secession and guaranteed slavery as an inalienable constitutional right. An amendment which had already passed Congress, had full support from Lincoln and had already been ratified by multiple union states. All the South had to do was sign it.

So tell me. Why would ANYBODY choose to risk EVERYTHING they have in a war that they KNEW they had little to no chance of winning in order to accomplish the EXACT same goal of the preservation of slavery that they could have accomplished with zero risk and a 100% guarantee of success simply by signing a piece of paper?

Don’t worry I’ll wait.

The south did not go to war to save slavery. They went to war to save the constitution.

 

Well first you have to instill a level of personal accountability and remove the victimhood mentality from their communities. Which begins by cutting off their welfare funding and eliminate food stamp babies and welfare queens.

We increase penalties on black people who commit violent crime. Like we do with gang members. If you’re a part of the group that disproportionately engages in violent crime and you commit one then you receive a more severe sentence.

That’s a good start.

 

No as I said earlier. If you want equality I’ll fight side by side with you. However if what you want is inequality with your boot on the neck of white peoples. Then we are going to have a problem.

 

America has an ignorance problem. That ignorance problem causes people to misread basic statistics and impute irrational conclusions based on their irrational reading of statistics. Example. Here's the official website that should have been used: https://www.bjs.gov/

This website was not used because it refutes the underlying false premise in the OP. Moreover, the OP apparently fails to understand the differential and distinction that any Statistician fully understands: Absolute Value is not the same Disproportionate Ratio. This is a fundamental failure of the OP. But, because intellectual honesty is not at issue in the OP, making such failure is not important.

Do Blacks commit a disproportionate number of criminal acts involving police contact in the United States of America? The answer is, yes in some areas. That's what any intellectually honest reading of the data tells any informed person. Do Black commit the majority of criminal acts involving police contact in the United States of America? The answer is a resounding no in most areas. That's also what any intellectually honest reading of the data tells any informed individual.

Total Violent Crime according to BJS saw its peak in the late 1970s (believe it or not). Climbing into the late 1970s and after the peak of crime in the late 1970s, it was White Males between ages 18 - 36 who put up the vast majority Total Absolute Crime in the United States of America. Not by just a little, but by the proverbial country mile. This is what the data tells you.

Talk to any victim of crime. Interview them. Ask that victim of crime whether or not they care about the Ethnicity of their assailant or that their assailant's Ethnicity is mathematically favored for committing a higher ratio of the types of crimes committed against them and see what the victim tells you. Neither the victim or the victim's family will give a rat's tail as to the status of the assailant's statistical edge within the data sample. They just won't give a hoot or a belly flop as to such information. More to the point, from a Societal standpoint, it would be far better for the rest of us law abiding people to have Less Total Crime in Absolute terms than Less Total Crime among a specific Ethnic group.

Another interesting note about the OP is the sample set itself. Missing from that sample set was the fact that Murders caused by Poisoning are committed by White's at a rate in excess of 87%. Should we not go to restaurants anymore where White People work as Servers? Should we fire all White People who work in the Pharmaceutical Industry? Should we pass legislation that bans any White Person from even applying for the job of Local Pharmacist? Dentists? Family Practice Doctor? Surgeon? Water Company? Hell, should we ban all White People from ever working at Alhambra Water or Crystal Geyser? McDonald's? Burger King? Outback Steakhouse? Chili's? TGIF? How about two (2) of my all-time favorites when I travel to the South, Waffle House or Chick-fil-A?

I don't care what you do, I'm still going to find a Waffle House and a Chick-fil-A whenever I travel down South. That's just standard protocol for me, personally. So, you can kiss my butt on those two. However, the rest are now up for grabs considering the way the OP approaches the subject of "Statistics." One of my favorite subjects (Mathematics). Just so ya know.

 

Honestly, I've never had a problem with White supremacists. I see them at gun shows all the time. I see some of them at Shot Show each year. I've been in the same firearms training programs with them in the deep South. Never once had a problem. Ate breakfast, lunch and dinner with them before during and after training. No problems, ever.

I think people need to travel more. Honestly, I do. I think people need to spend some time outside of their normal running grounds. When you get out and about, you can't help but see people for what they are. Not every White supremacist is the same. I know it sounds crazy, but it is true. Some of them just want to be left alone - they don't want any problems. They just see themselves as belonging to a group of people who do not want to socialize with anyone else not like them. Well, if we use that as the measuring rode, there are plenty other people in America who meet that same standard. There are some Asian people who will not assimilate, whatsoever. They don't want to be around anyone who is not Asian, like them.

Hell, I'm Black and I can tell you point blank that there are some people who immigrate here from certain parts of Africa, who wan't nothing (absolutely nothing) to do with me as "fellow" Black person. They don't want any part of me at any time or any other so-called "African American" for that matter. In fact, they look down their noses at so-called "African Americans." The massive irony here is that I've been to Africa, three times now (I plan to do a lot more travel there in the future) and I've always felt welcome and wanted no matter where I went. Definitely not the same with certain "African Immigrants" to the Untied States. In fact, I've known some African Immigrants to the US who have been downright rude and obnoxious towards "African Americans." Made me sick to my stomach to watch.

Supremacy? Eh, I get it. However, lots of people have and hold a "Supremacist" attitude here in the United States, who are not "White." Do they act out on it and commit crimes as a result of their beliefs? That's a different story, of course. Most do not and this kind of behavior is typically associated with "White supremacists" when it does take place on our soil.

I'm going to be shooting some matching in quite a few different places this year in the South. More so this year probably than any other. I plan to hit up some Chick-Fil-A and Waffle House, though. Not going to allow anything to stop that from happening - even though I stand an 87% greater chance of being poisoned by a White supremacist who works in one of these places, LOL!

Gawd. Gotta love it.

 

I've got 300 Blackout reasons why that won't happen.

 

I didn’t reLize Texas and Florida with the highest rates per capita are controlled by democrats. It’s so easy to just cite numbers without also citing population..it would be like my saying I have five problem kids in my class of 45 and compare it to a teacher who 3 problem kids in a class of 20

 

There is something self loathing about black people who see white supremacists as good people. It’s like a Jew saying nazis don’t give me any trouble so they’re ok..I hate to break it to you but they hate you but they’ll be polite in front of you.