Mormon church opposes federal LGBTQ nondiscrimination measure

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  1. Soupnazi

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    All sorts of ways
     
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    luckily most Americans disagree with you
     
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    Yeah well, there's that too. Laws meant to protect people always backfire in the end. However, you decided in that hypothetical that you wouldn't rent to low income tenants because of laws designed to help low income tenants.

    The same is true with anti-discrimination laws. If there is a law that says you absolutely definitely can NOT discriminate against people because of gender, you're going to be putting a lot of strip clubs out of business. There's simply no money to be made if your strippers look like Archie Bunker.

    Another great example I just thought of. I fly enough to be considered a frequent traveler. I refuse to use American carriers (unless they're much cheaper than a foreign alternative) because other carriers have young, beautiful, and friendly air waitresses. American carriers always have that one gay guy, three bitter old ladies with far too much makeup on, and a lesbian.

    If you ever want to see just how bad things are, just sit at a boarding gate and watch the groups of flight attendants. You'll see singapore airlines and they're all looking like a million dollars each in perfectly tailored skirts, then there's JAL looking similarly stunning, and then comes the American flight crew rocking it in pants suits and scowls at the passengers.
     
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    Rights are not decided by vote or consensus.

    Also there is no evidence that they disagree as these laws were not passed by vote or consensus they were imposed by the left.
     
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    they are not decided by business owners... if you want to run a business open to the public you play by the rules, the rules are no discriminating based on race or gender
     
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    No, there is evidence by looking at behavior. People might claim to be all about equal rights for all sorts of people, but last I checked, the sexual market value for 50 year old trannies is slightly lower than the sexual market value for 20 year old oriental girls.

    When I was in college, one of my jobs was as a bicycle messenger in SF. That took me to almost every secretary in the place. I don't know how they are now, but back then I didn't find a whole lot of middle aged male secretaries signing for delivered packages. No, these girls were all dressed to the nines.

    Businesses get around those laws all the time. It's either under, over, or through, but it would be better for everybody if we could discriminate without having to jump through legislative hoops to do it.
     
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    went to look for the south park video of the Mormon religion to remember what all they believed, seems it's been banned

    I thought only Scientology did that, and Ironically the south park Scientology video is still out there

    not even here

    http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons

    looks like only on HULU - search south park season 7 episode 12
     
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    You keep assuming that the rules are good rules they are not.

    they are discriminatory rules which violate the rights of business owners.

    It is precisely those immoral rules which are in question and by supporting them you support human rights violations
     
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    businesses discriminating what they will sell to customers based on race or gender is wrong
     
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    Only people can discriminate

    It may be stupid for a business owner to do this, which is why few would , but they have the right to do so.

    Everyone has the right to make stupid decisions which harm no one.

    Discrimination harms no one
     
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    How about having multiple prices based on race and gender? You know, if a guy is black and gay, charge him the black gay guy price for a wedding cake. If a girl is white and smoking hot, charge her the smoking hot white girl price.

    They can still get what they came for, but the prices are going to be a bit more dynamic than usual.
     
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    I once knew a white woman Real Estate broker who took a gamble here in N California by advertising rentals to only particular zip codes She did not mention race or other outlawed people.

    The State of Busted her and took her license and prosecuted her.

    She told them she did not discriminate based on race. They told her she did.
     
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    That's why certain businesses are bad business. She messed up by advertising to predominantly white areas. If she had turned that around and rented only in those predominantly white areas, she would have done fine.
     
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    Nope
     
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    Any answer?
     
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    Can you please list those ways without tax payers money?
     
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    I am not clear she would escape. I believe she did advertise she wanted local zip codes. Blacks from Oakland, Ca drove 25 miles to try to trap her. She always had some excuse to turn them down. I put out the word to a friend i think also knew her to see what he remembers about her. He told me moments ago he did not recall her. He was not aware of the story. I believe I now recall her name. Can't mention it since she might be living.
     
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    nope
     
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    no they don't have the right to discriminate
     
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    You crack me up. Tell me, can you promise the Democratic party laws are always obeyed?

    Say he has a gun, promise us the guy wont go out and shoot a person since there is a law. Chuckle....
     
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    your not making sense.... Trump says to take their guns first and deal with due process later
     
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    Yeah well, then you obviously don't know that insurance companies have been doing that for decades.
     
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    Yes it is

    Try a dictionary

    You are wrong
     
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    Since they are tax payers as well it is irrelevant
     
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    Yes they do all humans have that right you are simply bigoted and wish to violate it for a few
     

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