Mormon church opposes federal LGBTQ nondiscrimination measure

There are ways around it. For example, since I can't discriminate based upon race, I took the money I had invested in rental properties (took a beating by renting to black tenants) and invested it elsewhere. They were evicted and the units sold to people who raised the rent and learned the same lesson I did.

Money is like water. It's going to create profits here, or it's going to create profits there.

Another way is to plead that discrimination is a requirement of your particular business. So if I start a bar named "White Bimbos in Heels", I can argue that my clientele are strictly interested in white chicks who wear heels. This is why hooters can discriminate against 50 year old balding men.

At the end of the day, the civil rights act hurt everybody it was designed to help.

 

People who own businesses do have the right to discriminate you simply support an immoral law which violates those rights

 

no they do not have a right to discriminate, we do not want to live in a world where you can't buy food and other goods from stores based on your race or gender

 

Yes they do.

They are human beings and have the same rights as the rest of us

There is no We nor do you speak for anyone else.

 

there are bad black renters and bad white renters

I rented to a white family that sold my appliances to pay the rent... I do not think that represents all white renters though

it would of cost me too much to go after them in court so I had to eat the loss and they had no money, so even had I won, be hard to collect

I agree rent is higher cause of these types of renters

 

You've never heard of percentages or bell curves, I guess.

Yes, of course that happens. It's certainly not unknown for black renters to be good tenants and white tenants to be bad. However, if you ignore percentages, you'll end up eating a whole lot of rent arrears.

 

not in America, you open a business to the public, you don't discriminate based on race or gender

 

That is the point.

That law is an immoral violation of human rights

 

poor tenents are always more of a risk

but then you have people like Trump that claim bk and don't always pay either

 

I have an iPhone. If you have a TV, you can typically skip using the iPhone.

About the only time I play anything on an iPad is when I'm flying. On a phone? Never.

 

no it's not, no one should fear they will be denied service based on their race or gender when they stop to get gas or other goods

did the Trump businesses try to discriminate against renting to blacks if I recall correctly? do you think they shoudl of been allowed too?

 

Yes it is.

Every human has a right to discriminate. This law is immoral selective discriminatory and violates the principle of equality under the law.

Do not know if they did or not but when he was a private citizen it was his right.

No one has the right to associate or do business with another without the other parties consent

To support such a draconian and immoral law is abominable

 

How do you think that works in the real world? Amusingly enough, I've heard people who say stuff like that complain about food deserts, or not enough low income rentals available. You can make all the laws you want, but at the end of the day, I don't care if my profits come from a restaurant that only serves white people to a fertilizer factory in Wisconsin.

In the real world, what happens is that people invest in businesses that generate profits. This results in food deserts in economically depressed areas because black people don't buy parsnips. The KFC is booming all night long, but Wang had to close his organic vegetable shop and then reinvested in a white castle franchise.

 

Let me ask you a question. Could a business strive if they were in the middle of nowhere without any roads?

 

Any one can strive anywhere or any time

 

Let's say that you are on vacation in Thailand. You go to your hotel room, turn the TV on, and find out that the only English speaking channel is televised evangelists. So you break out your iphone, hook it up to the TV, and using the hotel's wifi, you're now bingewatching the beverly hillbillies.

 

luckily most Americans are not you

 

business open to the public do not have a right to discriminate based on race or gender

open a private member's only club if they want to discriminate

 

But they are!!! Why do you think people in those lefty cities are constantly complaining about the lack of low income housing? It's not because of a lack of available housing, but because without being able to discriminate, you're going to invest your money in a way that demographics automatically discriminate.

Let's say you have a rental property with 10 units. There are rent control laws that limit raising rents on tenants unless you have permission from the city council.

What would you do?

 

not hardly, rent is higher cause it's hard to evict people that don't pay in a timely manner, if they don't pay you should be able to tell them to have their stuff out of the house in 30 days or have them arrested for trespass and then sell their stuff or take it to the dump... no one should be able to live some where without paying rent

these laws were meant to protect paying tenets from being tossed out in short notice

 

No business is open to the public they are open to customers which by definition are select individuals. Which means discrimination.

Playing such stupid word games is how the government justified the immoral laws which you support

 

No you stop supporting the violation of their rights and let them discriminate the way anyone else can

Your support for this law is disgusting immoral and unjustifiable

 

Naw they can't.

 

How do customers get to their business?

 

Yes they can.

Anyone can strive for what ever they wish anywhere and anytime.

Strive simply means to work hard for something. Doesn't mean you will get it but you can try