SEN. TOM COTTON: war with Iran would be just ‘two strikes’

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    That should happen anyway.

    Trump is going to use this as a Reichtstag fire, He'll probably fire Bolton now to make it look good but I fully expect he will order an attack in Sept/Oct of 2020 so he can make a play to "suspend' the Election.
     
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    Well that is a dirty lie.
     
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    The Chinese needed us more than they needed the vietnamese an Nixon proved with operation linebacker. There was no threat of war with Russia or China
     
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    Because capitalist free society is right and communist dictatorships are wrong.
     
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    :) OK, then.
     
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    I fully support Israel they are not war mongers they are victims of hatred.
    As evidenced by being unfer near constant attack since 1948.

    Before America has anything to talk about with up they have to remounce and stop finding terrorists like Hezbollah.
    Until then there is nothing to talk about.
     
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    Just objective truth..
     
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    That statement is ignorant hindsight, meaning you had no idea back then anymore than I did, and the professionals only a bit more. China was in the midst of the cultural revolution, and the Soviets were flying MIG jets out of Hanoi and Haiphong. We had no idea what was going on in China and Russia was telling us to stay south of DMZ. Turns out, we could have gotten away with invading NV, which still would have been a great mistake in lost American personnel and treasure. And, most importantly, the American voters would not have supported such a move.
     
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    Not in the slightest on your part.
     
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    That's ok you can disagree and be wrong.
     
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    Not in the slightest on your part.
    Not on this. :)
     
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    It's not really up for debate. Communism and authoritarianism bad. Capitalism and freedom good.
     
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    There were willing to get him to go to a trial if the US had the evidence. The US refused to show any evidence. That makes it an ill joke to claim the Taliban was unwilling to hand over Bin Laden. Do note... the EU wouldn't even hand over Bin Laden to the US, if he was able to get the death penalty. And they would want to see prove first by default.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

    It just fits in the grand design of the GOP to go for a regime change.
    It's their kind of thing to do, no matter how many 100.000's of people get massacred.
     
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    I doubt that the 100 hours would destroy iran’s ability to essentially shut down the straights of hormuz
     
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    The main reason was Lyndon Baines Johnson. The way the war should have been fought from the start: from

    Having been overwhelmingly reelected to a second term, President Richard Nixon on this day in 1972 ordered the start of a massive, two-week bombing campaign of communist North Vietnam. American B-52s and fighter-bombers dropped more than 20,000 tons of bombs on the cities of Hanoi and Haiphong.Dec 18, 2018
     
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    To withdraw our troops and still be able to claim "victory."

    "Within two years of the election, both Nixon and Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned from office, the former due to Watergate and the latter to a separate corruption charge, and Nixon was succeeded by Gerald Ford."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_United_States_presidential_election
     
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    The Nixon plan was to support the South effort with logistics and air support. Congress cut off the funding for that. Even though it ended badly it was the heavy bombing of the north in places where it hurt that got the North to the negotiations table. That isn't to say that the South would not have succumbed in the long run but who knows, there is still a South Korea today and a Germany. Not all our efforts have been in vain.
     
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    SK and Germany were absolutely subservient to the US. Not so with SV.
     
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    Well in all fairness west Germany and South Korea exist because of the USA.

    Actually if it were not for the USA the whole world would be slave states to the USSR
     
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    So now the USA and its corporations are trying to make slave states out of the rest of the world.

    Won't work, podjo.
     
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    BS. Hating America doesn't make you right.
     
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    I love America, but unlike you, will not enable her when she is wrong. I served 12 active years in the infantry and the airborne. You?
     
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    Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl "served" with the 101st before joining the Taliban. Unfortunately deluded subversives slip through the cracks.
     

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