Marianne Williamson Releases $500 Billion Reparations Plan

It means we are a couple of centuries removed from the sin and nobody living today had anything to do with it. Nobody owes anybody reparations today.

 

Spare me your fairy tale the democrats are the party of slavery and Jim Crow.

People don't forget.

 

Really, so the 400k slaves in the North during the war were owned by Southern Democrats?
Rabid Republicans is the party of separate but equal, and they lost the confidence of the former slaves when the Rabid Repubs dropped reconstruction to support industrialist.Funny how yous guys have never heard of the Whigs, Constitutional Democrats or any other parties in the US during that time..

 

We've given that much to Israel and they aren't even Americans.

 

But they be Jews!!!!

 

Personally, I'm glad that she wants to give that much money, out of her own pocket, to pay people who she knows nothing about. I don't feel the need to contribute but more power to her. Honestly, I didn't know she had that much money to give away.

 

Why? because you don't want to pay that is the only reason you don't want the bill to be honored. And reparations now has also to do with the way blacks have been treated under our laws with Jim crow and not equal protection of the constitution. Do you think Blacks should be able to sue for not freely being able to vote or not being able to use clean bathrooms or eat where they wish, or live where they wish, or stay at a hotel of thier choice and pocketbook. Or maybe you think that it is the right of those businesses to choose who to serve?

I think they should sue all the local governments for these grievances. Let the Red states pay a bigger share.

 

The dems of the 19th century were slavers and southern dem dixiecrats were segregationists, that is of no doubt. What I am saying is that Democrats of Jefferson and Jackson were state rights conservatives, The overriding principle of the modern republican party being a small federal government. The republicans of the day were the liberal party wanting for a strong federalist republic, and expansionist foreign policy, Against big business, and even promoted the start of social programs. Teddy even wanted national health care.

You as a modern day conservative no longer have any connection with the party of Lincoln but with the party of Clay and Jefferson.

 

We have passed laws regarding racial discrimination and the national outrage now extends protection to anyone with hurt feelings. I repeat, nobody living in the US today ever owned a slave and no person of color has ever been one. Nobody owes anyone any reparations.

 

So you feel there is no need to address monetarily the laws that we had that systematically kept blacks at a different level of citizenship even during the 60s. You feel they should not be allowed to "sue" the states that had those laws that were in violation of their civil rights. They should just turn the page. how convenient for the people who did the oppressing.

 

How many ways can I say no so that you can accept my answer?

 

When you admit that there should be no financial penalty for violating ones civil rights

 

In the north they were democrats as well-it was the party of slavery while the Republicans were the abolition party.

 

Yes they were. My point was not what the party was called, but what were the political beliefs of the party at the time. As a progressive I would have been a Republican during that period of time. Based on your political beliefs you would have been a democrat.

Being a democrat at this point in time, when that party represents what it does, does not mean I will be a democrat in the future if they at the time morph into a set of beliefs that the conservative republicans hold at this time. I don't know if you are just being stubborn on this or you failed to grasp the concept that political parties beliefs change over time.

 

Amazing how do you know this?

Did you see this on The View?

 

That in no way relates to what we were discussing. If your conscience is hurting you get out and work some charity functions and donate whatever proportion of your income you deem appropriate. My conscience is clear.

 

How can anyone propose slave reparations before surrendering the entirety of North America to the "Indigenous Peoples"?

 

The guys who owned slaves had a clear conscience too? Maybe it is your moral compass?

 

How do I know what? our history during the reconstruction? Or the history of political parties in the US?

 

Isn't that your job? National moral compass?

 

I even put it in bold for you.

 

no, I don't tell anyone how they should feel or at least I did not mean to. I just gave it as a potential reason why he does not believe the way blacks were treated in this country until 1970 deserves financial recompense.

I don't want to pay reparations either, i Just made the point that the fed government already promised it and reneged.

 

Based on your answers in this thread and your present support for a conservative president. If you were a progressive that wanted the federal government to expand thier powers at give benefits to the common man at the cost to wall street like Lincoln and Teddy you would not have a picture of Trump as a avatar.

 

The federal govt reneged on every treaty they ever made with the American Indian tribes and they're still a bit pissed off about it. We probably aren't going to give any of the country back though.

 

no they did not renege on every treaty, there are many sovereign Indian nations. And yes the Indians are still pissed about it. I am sure the blacks would have still been pissed after being a slave all thier life and being told that thier lifes work was worth 40 acres of land. If someone kept me and may family as a slave and then offered $100,000 as a make good, i would be pissed. But your point is not really valid, we defeated the Indians in war. While certainly not moral, there is long standing legal validity of one nation taking lands from another defeated nation that is still valid to this day. The US did not allow its citizen to own native born Indians as slaves.