Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An education is nice, but everyone should learn a trade as well so they can pay the bills. I think we should also have a 4 days work week, that way people can work on the weekends in more menial jobs if they want. It would cut down our need for foreign workers.

    It's time to readjust our system I think.
     
  2. ARDY

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    My definition of winning is accomplishing what you originally set out to do... rather than. ” better than nothing rationalizations “

    I would point out that the shortcomings all of the discussed actions are not military shortcomings, but rather the shortcomings of ill advised political leaders.

    Perhaps we can all remember when the Iraq war started with promises it would be over in 9 months, would be self funding, and would re-make the Middle East. we were going to find and destroy weapons of mass destruction.... If those were the goals... I think it is fair to call the Iraq war as a failure

    The goals of Korea were clearly to eliminate the aggressive North Korean regime... again the result was a failure.

    and Afghanistan.... it is an unending morass where the Taliban is largely regaining control.... and Islamic militants are not destroyed, but have metastasized

    The fact is that avoiding defeat is a disappointingly pyrrhic victory

    That make one wonder why we are treating it as if it were a war
     
  3. ArmySoldier

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    Iraq was a massive military win.

    1: Successful invasion, totally upended the Iraq Republican Guard and military assets.
    2: Seized complete control of the country
    3: Found their leader and handed them over to the people- he was executed
    4: 1 million Iraqis dead compared to 4,500 American deaths

    Afghanistan was a MUCH quicker win. We gained total control of all city strong-holds. The Taliban/ALQ have since retreated to the vast mountain ranges which makes it pointless to keep fighting. We should have left Afghanistan a long time ago.
     
  4. Durandal

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    A lot of Republicans and independents despise Trump, too. It's because he's a con man and a moron who is actively harming the country every day he is in power, and because his conduct makes him reminiscent of a tin pot dictator.
     
  5. ARDY

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    Another poster said it was not a war
    So if you win a war that was not a war.... what have you accomplished


    Omg.... we are going back to the Vietnam body count theory of victory

    So.... in the beginning... was that the objective? Why have we stayed there so long if we already won years ago?
     
  6. ArmySoldier

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    Why did you only reference the body count, and completely ignore the rest?

    I see you're cherry picking.

    Pathetic.
     
  7. Thingamabob

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    Really? How many WMD's did you find?
     
  8. ArmySoldier

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    Tons. Why do people keep forgetting we actually found WMDs and our soldiers were exposed to them?

    We also found many caches with massive traces of chemical weapons.

    Also, that wasn't my point. The discussion was about the war itself. Do you know what a war is?
     
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    How's Saddam is doing recently... any health problem? How's his sons?
     
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    So which policies are harming tje country exactly? If you are gonna make claims like that then I sure hope you have more than ORANGE MAN BAD
     
  11. Thingamabob

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    They found NOT even ONE. Why do people keep forgetting you found none?
    I know what a war is. I am a war veteran. But you said ...
    Are you now saying that the U.S. sent civilians into a non-military hunt for WMD's?
     
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    And their client states lost that war, something you seem oblivious to.

    And what did accomplish long term, except to lose there as well; their clients collapsed.

    They didn't 'invade' Afghanistan; they rolled down the highway to support a client state trying to keep its capital city and never accomplished much there, either. Guess they weren't that afraid of Reagan as the myth the GOP PR claims. It was another Texan who got the resisters their weapons, a fellow by the name of Charlie Wilson, and again Reagan as just a bystander by then; just a giant dummy they trotted out to read stuff in front of cameras. It's doubtful he could remember his own name by then. But that probably does qualify as 'leadership' out in the fringes of the Right, though.

    Don't need to, that's what Google is for, and besides, the gimmick of blaming LBJ for the losses in Viet Nam by sniveling about 'micro-managing' also means he gets credit for the victory over the Viet Cong, and he gets credit for dragging the Soviets into bankruptcy. Can you refer us to any historian who claims the right wingers would have lifted a finger to stop the spread of Soviet imperialism nearly as effectively as LBJ and the liberal Democrats did? They wouldn't even support FDR against the Japanese and Nazis.
     
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  13. ArmySoldier

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    Why did you insist on making things up in front of everyone here?

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...C94C5BE1A07F5A8F4C&gwt=pay&assetType=REGIWALL

    https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/us/iraq-chemical-weapons/index.html

    Most of the weapons we found weren't even declassified until Obama declassified them.

    Do you just ignore that part?
     
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    Ah, here we have the current right wing fad of running Pity Parties for Japanese I pointed out earlier. lol Let's compare them to the Republicans' 'Contraband Camps' where hundreds of thousands of those 'freed slaves' died from disease and starvation were forced into by Lincoln. Bet there is a vast difference between the two ...
     
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    dblpost
     
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  16. Sobo

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    Nope. I demand equal payment. If its not equal, i make it equal myself. Its a very basic concept.
     
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    Lufthansa says the 737 is an old design and not flight worthy by today standards. The Max is dead. Evryone knows that
     
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    Despite the claims from the Tom Hanks movie, Charlie Wilson's role in supplying the fighters in Afghanistan was largely tangential. Wilson was mainly occupied with snorting cocaine, banging hookers, and drunk driving while he was in congress.

    Soviet clients in Africa were defeated.

    Largely during the Reagan admin.
     
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    Don't waste my time. There were no WMD's in Irak. However, Americans were exposed to their own depleted uranium weapons. You need to be more honest.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/19/us-depleted-uranium-weapons-civilian-areas-iraq
     
  20. ArmySoldier

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    You're wasting everyone's time by making up more nonsense. There were WMD's found. No one buys your crazy conspiracy. It's been cited for you.

    Many soldiers were injured in their discovery, as cited for you.

    You "truthers" go by YOUR OWN logic. Not facts.
     
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    The one who's wasting time is you. NO WMD's. There were none found by the UN inspection team and none found by the illegal American invasion and occupation. Simple facts.
     
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    Nope, highly incorrect on pretty much all levels. I'd like to see a source for your 29 claim if you have one, please. At least, you said IIRC, so that may count as an excuse.
    The dual education or dual training system (what you're refering to as apprenticeship program) has extremely little to do with college/university education. It does in no way serve as a delay in any way or form and is not intended to.
    BA dregree takes three years in pretty much every field of studies. Btw, there were no BA degrees two decades ago. If you knew something about this, you'd be familiar with the so-called Bologna Process and how it changed tertiary education.
    Education in Germany works very differently to the US, a direct comparison makes hardly any sense at all.
    In 2017 the avergage age when graduating, vast majority graduate with an MA, was 24.
    https://de.statista.com/statistik/d...lter-von-hochschulabsolventen-in-deutschland/
     
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    All isotopes of Uranium are radioactive. Depleted Uranium emitts alpha and beta radation.
     

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