If You Are So Dumb That Voter Suppression Efforts Work-Should You Even Be Voting Anyway?

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  1. Just_a_Citizen

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    More pomposity.
     
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  3. Just_a_Citizen

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    LOL @ "anecdote". It's a verifiable fact. Finland went broke with their "free health care".
     
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    Wow you judge alot just by looking at someone, what awesome powers of judgment!
     
  7. Just_a_Citizen

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    And their Government RESIGNED because of it!
     
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    But it wont stop them telling us how "great" their system "works".
     
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    Of course silly, how dare we presume to know what's best or better put, WORSE for us!
     
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    Voting process is a state by state issue. I'm in a vote-by-mail state, and it's working very well.

    WA, CO and OR have moved to vote-by-mail.

    That means no polling places: no hours limitations, no transportation issues, no changing ID requirements, no cheating on id, no hacked machines, no unequal distributin of required equipment/material (so some have to wait in line for hours while others walk through), no volunteers who don't know the law, clear paper trail, no "lost" ballots (like my state once had), etc.

    Of course, this doesn't fix gerrymandering and it doesn't fix the fact that citizens in Washington, DC have no congressional representation, yet they can't even pass a budget without the approval of the US congress in which they have no representation!!
     
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    Americans' right to vote is not a matter of my judgement. It is a matter of the US Constitution.
     
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    Oooo.
     
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    That the public depositions, given under oath, by dedicated public servants in the know, will be subject to questioning by the congressional committee members of both parties?

    If that has you in a snit, that's unfortunate.
     
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    Trump's quid pro quo was not about internal Ukrainian issues. It was a demand that the Ukranian president announce that Joe Biden was being investigated - when he was not being investigated and no evidence indicated that he should be investigated.
     
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    I already won. I just gave you the congressional voting record of every bill from 2001-2007 attempting to regulate fanny/Freddy, every one of them killed by republicans. Sorry.
     
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    LMAO! I'll see if I still have the links... 11 years... Might be a stretch... but did you READ those Bills, and their Riders and Earmarks?!

    LMAO it's no wonder the GOP didn't pass them!
     
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    NOT TO MENTION, the problem was WELL entrenched by '01!
     
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    This most certainly was not a part of the phone call in question.
     
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    First of all, we do not have the transcript of the phone call. We have an edited version that even shows where there are omissions in key places. The actual transcript was locked in a secure vault in an unknown location used for the highest level of state secrets. (Why do you suppose THAT is?) And, the executive branch refuses to make it available.

    Beyond that, there have been multiple witnesses who have made statements concerning the quid pro quo.

    There were multiple people in on the Trump conversation. There were other conduits for presenting the quid pro quo to the Ukranian president - including but not limited to Pence and Giuliani.
     
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    Sorry, but reality is what it is. Republicans are directly responsible for the crash, as I showed you.
     
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    Irrelevant. Republicans killed every single attempt to fix it.
     
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    Bullshit.

    They killed the bills due to earmarks.

    See John McCain
     
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    This is a pathetic excuse. Republicans killed every single attempt to fix the problem. Sorry that clashes with your incorrect memory but facts are facts.
     
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    And what's that got to do with the price of Chinese tea? Or your judging people by a photo?
     

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