If You Are So Dumb That Voter Suppression Efforts Work-Should You Even Be Voting Anyway?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense. They even got rid of the laws that managed to get passed.

    And, they are continuing to do that TODAY.

    Republicans had both the House, Senate and presidency and all they could do was too ensure that safety measures got removed.

    Then, YOU come along and try to sell that it was those nasty Democrats!!!

    Oh, and John McCain - who was more of a man than any other Republican congressman, which is something Republicans could not POSSIBLY manage to recognize.
     
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  2. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL ME?!

    Read the Bills.
    AND MCCAIN'S REACTIONS TO THEM...
    I did.

    Oh, I'm a fiscally conservative Libertarian BTW, that DIDN'T vote Trump in '16...

    GOING TO IN 2020 tho!
     
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  3. Natty Bumpo

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    When I note that Americans have a constitutional right to vote, it directly addresses the topic:
    "If You Are So Dumb That Voter Suppression Efforts Work-Should You Even Be Voting Anyway?"

    If you judge people by a photo, that is your choice.
     
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  4. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Oh, nice projection ^ Only one problem with that, I did no such thing but YOU did.
     
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    So you go to the ballot box and find out that "someone" has removed you from the registration rolls. You've been purged.

    How does that reflect on your intelligence?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All this time I figured that you would respond to what I actually said. Perhaps next time.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You are citing an ABERRATION which does NOT constitute DATA and therefore is nothing more than an ANECDOTE.
     
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  8. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Complete and utter bovine excrement!

    It was Republican/Libertarian FISCAL MALFEASANCE that DEREGULATED Wall Street Casino "banks" that enabled them to make PREDATORY mortgage loans without proof of income.
     
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  9. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We had this discussion 3 years ago.

    Not having it again... especially since you seem to have slid even further Left.

    As a matter of fact... Good Bye.

    Got zero time for Liberals any more. Moderates sure....
     
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  10. FatBack

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    Are you serious? Fine denial ya got there. I dont think you know the definition of data. So you think it's just some anomoly, just a "one off"? You see no evidence of a failed model? So what caused it? Bigfoot? No, it was caused by an unsustainable system, but let's just ignore that and keep our fingers crossed it will work in a MUCH larger country....It will work, "this time"...(where have we heard that before)?

    Finland's government resigns over failed healthcare reform ...

    https://www.bbc.com › news › world-europe-47496326

    Mar 8, 2019 - Finland's government resigns over failed healthcare reform. 8 March ... of the Centre Party government with just weeks to go until the election.
     
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  11. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Did you MISS this part that was CITED as part of the CAUSE of this FAILURE?

    That is FAILING right HERE in the good old USA so all your ANECDOTE has done is provide the OPPOSITE of what you intended!

    Strike two as far as links go!

    :roflol:
     
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  12. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Sure, enjoy the spin and pretend "free" health care, is some utopian, unicorn.
     
  13. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Explain why all of those other civilized nations can manage to provide universal healthcare for ALL of their citizens and why America is ONLY capable of providing universal healthcare for SENIOR citizens?

    What makes those nations MORE SUCCESSFUL at providing universal healthcare than we are?

    Why is America #38 instead of being #1?
     
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  14. FatBack

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    Well, you already attempted to first ignore and then spin, the failure in Finland. Have you considered the total population of the USA and tried to do the math? I doubt it. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you are the one who has FAILED to do the math.

    What does PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare cost TODAY in America?

    What happens when you ELIMINATE the PROFIT from that cost?

    It costs LESS, right?

    That is what Universal Single Payer does everywhere else in the world.

    Why is this concept so difficult to grasp?
     
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  16. FatBack

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    Private non profits? Made of unicorn horns and pixy dust. It's a failure, just pretend it's viable. The USA has a population of over 360 million, do you "get" that?
     
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    Uhh you need to take a look at the NON Profit VA healthcare thats been below standard for Decades and it costs far more to run than private healthcare. So much more, theyve recently changed and are sending vets to private health care and paying for it.

    Heres some facts for you to check out

    Drs in the VA make from 165 to 300,000 a year, my podiatrist makes 400,000 and he doesnt do surgery
    I asked my long time family Dr if she would work for 300,000 she said instantly emphatically NO.

    The VA does not get the best drs, and if they do they dont stay long.
    Medicare for all will send the quality of our health care zooming down the toilet. With long waits and just like other countries and people dying while waiting for procedures.

    it puts millions out of work and costs hundreds of billions or trillions
     
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  18. Derideo_Te

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    Not my problem if you believe in unicorns and "pixy dust".

    FACTUAL DOCUMENTED REALITY demonstrates that NONPROFIT Universal Healthcare WORKS!
     
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    You are ERRONEOUSLY CONFLATING Single Payer Universal Healthcare with GOVERNMENT RUN healthcare.

    They are NOT the same thing.

    Medicare is Single Payer and WORKS!

    Extending Medicare to ALL citizens will WORK as well because all it is doing is eliminating the PROFIT OVERHEAD of the existing PRIVATE health insurers.
     
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    AOC "math"....You just "pay for it"...duhhh, easy peasy! Lemon Squeezey!
     
  21. lpast

    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Medicare works because people have large deductions and lets get to the truth ok

    Medicare is not comprehensive health care thats why most all senors have supplement plans, medicare has a big deductible you pay out of pocket and it pays 80% of hospital, can you imagine what 20% of some hospital bills are.

    Now add millions of people who cant buy supplement plans or afford deductibles and add millions more illegals and what you have created
    Is a big pile of UNaffordable crap with lousy health care as the prize

    You sir are erroneously or intentionally skipping all the facts that create the truth.

    Medicare for all will cost TRILLIONS and health care will be horsecrap and millions out of work. Its a lose lose democrat created stupidness
     
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  22. Derideo_Te

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    And yet MILLIONS of Seniors are very happy with their Medicare costs.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx

    If you want to argue the FACTS as substantiated by Gallup I recommend that you take it up with the Seniors themselves since they are NOT supporting your allegations WRT to costs.
     
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    Just the ones that worked all their lives and can afford a SUPPLMENT, those with straight medicare have big costs and are restricted.
    Something YOURE forgetting the democrats want to put every bum, skid, junky, drug dealer, that doesnt work on medicare on my dime. Drug dealer that make a fortune can come over the border and get free healthcare while the deal drugs.

    Democrats want to put millions of illegals on medicare as well as any that run over the border after the fact. Who pays for all that, american taxpayers that already have healthcare becasue they WORK or worked all their lives.

    Its absurd, ridiculous, unnafordable and stupid
     
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    Emoting does not refute the FACTS that I provided.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    You try to hard but you are factless, ranting and making claims are meaningless, but thank you and you have a great day also
     

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