If You Are So Dumb That Voter Suppression Efforts Work-Should You Even Be Voting Anyway?

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone can sign up for absentee ballot and vote right at home at their kitchen table. I have been voting that way for about 20 years. Arizona even pays the postage. You can vote weeks ahead of the election. You can't get it any easier than that.

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    Get on the computer and ask about the crash and most all economist will tell you the crash of the economy was because of the housing fiasco, not Bush's handling of the economy and the Democrats were as responsible as the Republicans were pushing banks to give out loans to the poor who should never have been given home loans. It was started all the way back in the early 1990's and went on right up to the crash.

    Here was the very start of the fall of the banks, by pushing banks to make loans to the poor, when they couldn't afford them.

    Please catch the date of this article.



    U.S. To Push Banks on Credit in Poor Areas

    December 09, 1993|ROBERT A. ROSENBLATT and CHRIS KRAUL | TIMES STAFF WRITERS


    WASHINGTON — The Clinton Administration, hoping to generate billions of dollars in new loans for small businesses and residents in poor and minority neighborhoods, on Wednesday unveiled proposed new rules requiring banks and thrifts to aggressively seek new customers in all parts of their communities.

    Federal regulators will now be much tougher in demanding that financial institutions make credit available to the poor as well as the affluent, said Comptroller of the Currency Eugene A. Ludwig, whose recent travels have taken him from South-Central Los Angeles to a reservation in North Carolina to hear complaints about the lack of credit in low-income areas.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-...ommunity-banks
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a little more on it

     
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    Lenders then began lending money without bothering to look at income, credit history or any other factor, selling off traunches of low quality mortgages while having rating companies give them stellar ratings which were in NO WAY
    justified.

    That is NOT what Clinton was asking.

    And, the big money boys got bailed out with our tax dollars while Americans got their wealth reaped. Smooth move, Bush!
     
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  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush warned the Democrats a dozen times that F/M needed strong regulations, but when the economy crashed she put all the blame on Republicans

     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even Bill Clinton said Democrats wouldn't listen and Franks lied about pushing housing.

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  7. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This was in 2005
    Barney Franks lies about home ownership

     
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    Through Biden, Obama straigntened out a significant case of criminality going on in Ukraine - a bipartisan objective.

    Trump worked to coerce Ukraine to throw mud on a US political rival.

    If you can't see the difference, you have some serious work to do.
     
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    Clinton forced banks to make housing loans to the poor and sued banks when they didn't. Attorney Obama was in on one of those cases in Chicago. Bush encouraged loans for minorities too. He offered to pay the down payment if a person qualified for a loan. But he never forced banks to make those loans and warned buyers to be careful of unscrupulous home lenders.


    Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans

    https://iusbvision.wordpress.com › 2008/09/30 › obama-sued-citibank-und...

    Sep 30, 2008 - “No loan is exempt, no bank is immune,” warned then-Attorney General Janet Reno. ... had to make loans to people who shouldn't have been getting mortgage loans.” .... When he served on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago with ... claiming they were “redlining” poor and minority neighborhoods
     
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    And Biden threatened not to let Ukraine have the money if they didn't fire the investigator investigating his Son and the company he worked for. If you think that is any better your blind. If they did nothing wrong, there was no harm done. But Biden was VP when he did that. He didn't want his Son to lose a cushy job that was paying tens of thousands a month for doing nothing.
     
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    95% of Teh Interwebz would fall into this, and 99% of the MSM...

    I agree tho.
     
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    Out of it even.
     
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    Ever thought those people just might be disabled?

    You ****ing Leftists and your presumptuous attitudes.
     
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    Yes - the USA coerced Ukraine to fix a problem in Ukraine.

    Personally, I don't like that Hunter got involved. What I've read says Joe was not in favor of that.

    But, let's be clear here. Joe was carrying out bipartisan policy to clean up a serious problem in Ukraine.

    Trump used aid allocated to defend our ally in order to coerce a statement against a political rival.

    Trump's act had truly disgusting sub-parts, such as smearing our ambassador in order to get her fired, because she would probably not play along with the crime.
     
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    Disabled only have to call up and get papers filled out to vote absentee ballot and vote right at home at your kitchen table.
     
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    Haven't seen any voter suppression in my polling place over last 35+ years. And I believe all voters should have to show a driver's license or State issued i.d.

    All individuals should have a State issued I.D. As if they are stopped by Police they will need one. In order to get Welfare they need to prove citizenship. So enough of voter suppression, let the precincts report it if they see it. Let the Voter experiencing it report it immediately. I do not buy it.
     
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    I don't know what YOU think Democrats favor, but in WA, OR and CO we have a secure vote by mail system that doesn't require people to leave their place of residence, doesn't require fancy new ID, doesn't have any hours restrictions like polling places do, etc.

    That's secure, easier for people who have all sorts of limitations in time and physical ability, free of the multiple forms of fraud of polling places, .... and it's cheaper!!
     
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    Trump asked him to check up and see if anything dishonest was going on. He had more right to do that as President, then Biden had interfering in another countries affairs.
     
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    In may states that process is NOT secure.

    Once it's made secure, why make it necessary for people to request it? Why not get rid of polling places, whire are rife with issues of secuity, crime and unequal access?
     
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    Why in some states it's not secure? Nothing more secure than voting at home.
     
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    NO.

    Trump demanded that the Ukranian president issue a public statement saying he was opening a criminal investigation of Biden, a leading candidate in the campaign for Trump's position.

    And, what Biden did as VP was asked of him by the president and was known to congress. Also, it was internal to Ukraine and had nothing to do with US democracy. Republicans wanted the criminality in Ukraine rooted out, too. It was a sticking point in our ability to aid Ukraine against the attacks by Russia.
     
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    Link?
     
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    My comment had to do with the poster's image under "lazy voters" sitting at a Trump rally.
    Try to keep up.
     
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    Read my reply to Marine1
     
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    It comes down to questions of process, starting with the registration database and going through to the point where the ballot is tablated.

    Process varies across the states, but absentee ballot processes have had a record of weak security.
     

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